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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by merlindru »

torben-friis wrote: post #44
postalcoder wrote: post #12

This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…

There is so much of that in modern apple. Clear issues caused by a seemingly bright idea, but the idea still pushed forward no matter what. One example that I hate on iOS: the notification/lockscreen curtain is supposed to cover the content as it slides down. That’s what a curtain does, this has been the language for years. Now the curtain is transparent, so it can’t cover the content behind. How does the content dis…

> seemingly bright idea

i disagree about that one.

im not a UX expert by any means but my first impression at WWDC seeing liquid glass was "holy shit, they pulled that off? i know apple would never compromise on legibility, so... how? there are so many situations where this won't work, and they can't exactly control the content that the buttons are overlaid on top of"

cue my confusion when it was exactly that: an obviously problematic idea implemented with all the obvious flaws showing up

they have largely fixed it now, half a year later, but the liquid glass isn't very liquid anymore. it's frosted. which is fine, but obviously not the original idea they were going for

contrasty backgrounds are fundamentally incompatible with legibility

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by marxisttemp »

ant6n wrote: post #49
eastbound wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beautiful, it’s nice, but the polished user experience was the ultimate argument. - Raising the lid of the laptop and the base wouldn’t stick and fall off on the desk, - A single-button click, - A Cmd+C to copy and Ctrl+C for the interruption 7 in the terminal, But now you have to configure that, yes, activate the right-click; yes, activate the three-finger click (wtf, 3 fingers); yes, activate the swipe-across-deskt…

What I find confusing and unhelpful is how The Apple OS deals with windows. Say if you have 4 safari windows, 3 excel windows, 5 window word documents and a bunch of terminals spread across a bunch of desktops. To me, I have clearly conceptionalized different work streams into desktops. Apple doesn’t understand and respect that. Firstly, alt-tab doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple bro…

> Firstly, alt-tab

I assume you mean cmd-tab.

>doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple browser windows or word windows open, you can’t alt-tab between them. It’s totally confusing.

You use cmd-tilde to switch between windows.

>So I install an app just to get the normal alt-tab behavior of other OSs, to alt-tab between windows (mine is called alt-tab, and it’s a bit buggy and slow, I think they all are)

You don’t need an app.

>Next, Apple does not respect the multiple desktop boundary. If I click on the safari icon in the dock, it will switch to some seemingly random safari window in some other desktop. If I close any window, it will also run off to some other window of the same app in some other desktop (who came up with that behavior?) when I dismiss an outlook notification, it will run of to another desktop to look at outlook (actually I think this one is Microsoft’s fault, but Apple could probably do something about this one). The result is that while working, I have trouble staying on the desktop I’m working on, I constantly am getting sent off to some other random desktop, and have to find where I am and where I was. There must be a better, more productive way to manage windows and desktops.

This is a configurable setting.

>(Also what’s up with the autocorrect, I had to retype every instance of “I think” in this message, because it insists it should be “o think”)

This is a configurable setting.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by Ultimatt »

marxisttemp wrote: post #58
nnwright wrote: post #36

Mac OS's UX design has been in free fall the last 5-10 years (ever since the "iOS-ify everything" zeitgeist took root). Sincerely hope that they one day revert back, because the current UX is just godawful for any usecase I can imagine.

What is godawful about it? Tahoe is great. Spotlight shortcuts, LLM actions. “Design is how it works.”

Because Spotlight now rarely finds your applications in search so you can't just quick launch anything.... from a launcher widget

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by marxisttemp »

Ultimatt wrote: post #64
marxisttemp wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is godawful about it? Tahoe is great. Spotlight shortcuts, LLM actions. “Design is how it works.”

Because Spotlight now rarely finds your applications in search so you can't just quick launch anything.... from a launcher widget

I haven’t had a single issue with this. I’m guessing many people had this issue immediately after upgrading while Spotlight was still re-indexing and are just running with it since it’s cool to hate Tahoe right now.

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by merlindru »

stein1946 wrote: post #45

It just seems to me that that Macbook Neo is basically them telling us that come next year they will unify iOS and MacOS and they are testing the waters at the moment. All this version alignment, the blurring of "here is a laptop with A processor and iOS" points to that direction. The errs of Tahoe are basically a result of the rush on that direction

i hope you're wrong. they certainly have seemed to test the waters on many other fronts. the $99/yr notarization fee is now basically required as running unnotarized apps is made hard and scary enough to turn off probably 97% of average users

they also briefly took away the ability to disable gatekeeper per terminal command (now back)

next they wanna launch a touchscreen macbook, presumably this fall

Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses

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Post by Ultimatt »

marxisttemp wrote: post #62
ant6n wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find confusing and unhelpful is how The Apple OS deals with windows. Say if you have 4 safari windows, 3 excel windows, 5 window word documents and a bunch of terminals spread across a bunch of desktops. To me, I have clearly conceptionalized different work streams into desktops. Apple doesn’t understand and respect that. Firstly, alt-tab doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple bro…

> Firstly, alt-tab I assume you mean cmd-tab. >doesn’t consider windows, it considers apps. So if you have multiple browser windows or word windows open, you can’t alt-tab between them. It’s totally confusing. You use cmd-tilde to switch between windows. >So I install an app just to get the normal alt-tab behavior of other OSs, to alt-tab between windows (mine is called alt-tab, and it’s a bit buggy and slow, I think…

I am mildly shocked after almost two decades of Mac use I never came across cmd+tilde thanks a lot!
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