This feels like one of those "done for backwards compatibility and we tested not doing it and it was worse" things where everyone assumes incompetence over good-faith trade-offs being driven by release schedules.
Did the radius need changing
macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#22Maybe this is intentional? Either way, doesn't look bad.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they even explained it at WWDC Did they explain the reasoning?
> In the new design system, windows now have a softer, more generous corner radius, which varies based on the style of window. Windows with toolbars now use a larger radius, which is designed to wrap concentrically around the glass toolbar elements, scaling to match the size of the toolbar. Titlebar-only windows retain a smaller corner radius, wrapping compactly around the window controls. These larger corners provid…
Just a bunch of words that raised no red flags, maybe sounded like a decent idea even, but when you see it how is your reaction not “oh, that’s bad”
I feel like this is the design process. You have ideas, they sound ok, you try them out, and then immediately you revert a lot of them. The ideas without the taste to know when not to do something is becoming the new Apple way
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm starting to suspect most people at Apple (and Microsoft) just spend time in a browser these days and so they don't notice how the desktop has gone shitty.
I won't be public shaming, but on a .NET podcast I just heard of an internal Microsoft project that took 7 years (!), to become public, it was a plain single Assembly .NET library nothing special (1 DLL).
Which one?
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#25read somewhere that maybe they’re preparing for OLED screens
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#26Maybe this is intentional? Either way, doesn't look bad.
I suppose that's subjective, because to me it looks distracting and tacky. I want the window chrome to be present, opinionated, yet consistent and plain. This is one of the many Tahoe-isms that violates the latter two. It's visual noise that detracts from one of the most basic utilities of the UI, which is to simply hold my applications in a regular, cohesive, predictable manner.
Maybe it shouldn't irritate me, but it's the first time I've encountered it in 30 years. I'm all for change and trying new things, but this doesn't feel like progress.
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#27Im gonna go against the grain here, so hold your pitchforks please, but I think its better than if it were consistent. Let me explain: The author notices that adding a toolbar changes the radius, and to me it makes sense. If theres a toolbar, I know how much I can cut the corners, because the icons in the toolbar are not gonna be in far corner. At the same time, when I am unsure about what type of content might get c…
So… the moment the Interface Designer in XCode can identify the app only has a single button at the center of a window, the window should be a circle? :)
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they even explained it at WWDC Did they explain the reasoning?
> In the new design system, windows now have a softer, more generous corner radius, which varies based on the style of window. Windows with toolbars now use a larger radius, which is designed to wrap concentrically around the glass toolbar elements, scaling to match the size of the toolbar. Titlebar-only windows retain a smaller corner radius, wrapping compactly around the window controls. These larger corners provid…
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Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#29Why should the two window varieties have the same corner radius? There's no design analysis here, only conservatism.
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#30Maybe this is intentional? Either way, doesn't look bad.
It is intentional - it was explained at WWDC. And it looks good.