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Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does claim the US went to great lengths to dismiss the victims for a decade, while being in possession of the device. That raises the question of what incentives the US would have to deny its existence. To me, that was the story.

It doesn’t say they had it in their possession for the last decade. It says they tested it for about a year. Not clear when they would have gotten it.

2024.

source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-military-tested-device-that-...

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

#22

The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

A common hallucination and delusion is that someone is beaming thoughts into the afflicted's head, causing some to believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to torment them. Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

If its a CIA related conspiracy its easier to believe than not to. That agency has always managed to be up to no good.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable. Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here: >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabil…

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I spent a lot of time (as a former lit PhD student with an interest in narrative and identity) paying attention to the Q-related (and adjacent) stories. On one hand, once folks are freed from orthodox thought, they might point out some very useful and interesting ideas about the world. On the other hand, (assuming I just haven't figure out how to observe astral-projecting bodies, lumerians, the long-term benefits of…

I was being sarcastic but i get your point. The trump admin is full of pedophiles but for years and years they were claiming they were going to unmask the “real” pedophiles. I meant that like qanon was talking about a massive conspiracy where pedophiles were running the gov. They are now though lol

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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There is a plausible explanation for the reluctance of the US government to admit the authenticity of Havana Syndrome: the US military may have developed its own energy weapon that causes similar injuries and symptoms.

What is the evidence to support such a hypothesis? President Trump himself recently revealed the existence of a new secret energy weapon that was used to disable Nicolás Maduro's security team during the raid to capture the Venezuelan president [1].

According to one of Maduro's guards quoted by the New York Post: “At one point, they launched something; I don’t know how to describe it. It was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside,” the witness said. "We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move. We couldn’t even stand up after that sonic weapon — or whatever it was."

[1] https://nypost.com/2026/01/24/us-news/trump-reveals-to-the-p...

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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For the benefit of people who read only the headline and not the article: The story here is that the US government captured Russia's energy weapon, which Russia has been using against US personnel for a decade, and tested it to determine what it does (it causes brain damage). This story does _not_ claim that the US has developed a weapon like this themselves.

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Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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For the benefit of people who read only the headline and not the article: The story here is that the US government captured Russia's energy weapon, which Russia has been using against US personnel for a decade, and tested it to determine what it does (it causes brain damage). This story does _not_ claim that the US has developed a weapon like this themselves.

It does claim the US went to great lengths to dismiss the victims for a decade, while being in possession of the device. That raises the question of what incentives the US would have to deny its existence. To me, that was the story.

To me the question is actually, what changed to make them release the story now? Biden’s been out of office for a while now… it wasn’t anything his admin did. They could’ve continued gagging the victims, claiming it’s psychosomatic, and most of us would keep on believing that, because Occam’s razor.

Lots of similar reports came out during the Maduro raid. Same symptoms. Seems we demonstrated the capabilities we were hiding. OSINT experts already put the pieces together a month ago. So did our adversaries. Cat’s out of the bag, so no sense continuing to gaslight our wounded veterans.

We probably put this fucking thing in a plane instead of a backpack. Everything’s bigger in the USA, of course.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable. Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here: >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabil…

Yup. There's no hard evidence and so it still comes off as mass psychosis / psychosomatic / placebo effect with wildly-varying "symptoms". Surely, there would be some sizable "weapon" consuming massive amounts of energy nearby that would be visible and captured on video if it were true.

I have been a skeptic of this until now. The explanation given by the researcher interviewed seems more than plausible to me.

It’s not the typical misunderstanding of non-ionizing radiation. The variable symptoms make a lot of sense, given that the weapon is basically just causing random electrical “failures” in the body. This was not a precision op. They saturated a location with this engineered interference signal, with the goal of maiming the target. No regard to whether their families and children would be collateral damage. It’s a war crime on multiple levels, on our soil. Then we presumably went and did the same thing during the Maduro raid at scale.

Just what we needed in 2026, more man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

#30

The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

A common hallucination and delusion is that someone is beaming thoughts into the afflicted's head, causing some to believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to torment them. Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

Wasn't this something Nine Inch Nails tried at a concert during their ARG for Year Zero? They wanted to beam messages to specific audience members'. It just didn't work well.
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