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Re: Rendezvous with Rama

#11
Been following this movie's development for over 20 years. I give props to Morgan Freeman for trying so hard all this time to get it made. Denis Villeneuve would be a great director for this, and he could make it work.

Let's hope it happens soon... finally.

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#12
I really enjoyed Rendezvous with Rama when I read it as a sixteen year old. The sense of awe, the scale, the mystery: it was great. But nothing much happened and the story didn't really go anywhere interesting.

I eagerly read the sequel, hoping it would unveil the mysteries, but it felt like it was not written by Clarke at all (I suspect Lee wrote it all). Instead of wonder, sci-fi and reveal, it was more about the human relationships of the astronauts and less about the sci-fi.

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For those who already read Rendezvous with Rama but need their alien aliens fix I can highly recommend "Shroud" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It is a similar theme with modern writing and convincing aliens as is pretty much expected by now from Tchaikovsky.

I just read a series of his books involving "unspace" so nice to see a recommendation. Will check out Shroud.

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post #5

For those who already read Rendezvous with Rama but need their alien aliens fix I can highly recommend "Shroud" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It is a similar theme with modern writing and convincing aliens as is pretty much expected by now from Tchaikovsky.

I liked shroud a lot, but the ending felt very ungratifying. It's like Tchaikovsky wrote himself into a corner and didn't really know how to wrap it up nicely. I find this to be true of some of his other books as well.

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post #5

For those who already read Rendezvous with Rama but need their alien aliens fix I can highly recommend "Shroud" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It is a similar theme with modern writing and convincing aliens as is pretty much expected by now from Tchaikovsky.

Tchaikovsky has written some of the best books I have ever read like Children of Time and Children of Ruin and also some of the worst books I have ever read like Cage of Souls.

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post #6

If he'd stopped after one, it would have been fine. He decided to do a series. It got weird. I still read them but the original is a decent standalone and you won't die unhappy if you never read the following. The same could be said of 2001.

I thought 3001 was fine and a good conclusion. Although it seemed implausible in the setting that humanity wasn't immortal given some of the technology.

I remember 3001 mainly for the bit about deism vs theism, which is one of my favourite throwaway passages in all of sf.

8"You said that all the old religions have been discredited. So what do people believe nowadays?"

"As little as possible. We’re all either Deists or Theists."

"You’ve lost me. Definitions, please."

"They were slightly different in your time, but here are the latest versions. Theists believe there’s not more than one God; Deists that there is not less than one God."

"I’m afraid the distinction’s too subtle for me."

"Not for everyone; you’d be amazed at the bitter controversies it’s aroused. Five centuries ago, someone used what’s known as surreal mathematics to prove there’s an infinite number of grades between Theists and Deists. Of course, like most dabblers with infinity, he went insane."

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post #7
post #5

For those who already read Rendezvous with Rama but need their alien aliens fix I can highly recommend "Shroud" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It is a similar theme with modern writing and convincing aliens as is pretty much expected by now from Tchaikovsky.

Children of Time was excellent, so thank for this recommendation.

the fourth book in that series comes out later this week if you haven't been keeping up with him

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought 3001 was fine and a good conclusion. Although it seemed implausible in the setting that humanity wasn't immortal given some of the technology.

I remember 3001 mainly for the bit about deism vs theism, which is one of my favourite throwaway passages in all of sf. 8 "You said that all the old religions have been discredited. So what do people believe nowadays?" "As little as possible. We’re all either Deists or Theists." "You’ve lost me. Definitions, please." "They were slightly different in your time, but here are the latest versions. Theists believe there’s…

Nothing in this thread makes me feel I should change my mind but de gustibus and all that.

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If he'd stopped after one, it would have been fine. He decided to do a series. It got weird. I still read them but the original is a decent standalone and you won't die unhappy if you never read the following. The same could be said of 2001.

Officially, all the Rama sequels were co-authored by Clarke and Gentry Lee. Clarke claimed that Lee did virtually all the writing and he was only a consultant, although AFAICT the only source for this claim was in an interview many years after they were published, presumably after Clarke was aware of their negative reception, so who knows how much of that is true vs. reputation management. But yeah, they're awful. I…

It would seem passing strange that Gentry Lee came up with all the awful bits and the consulting oversight didn't.

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post #12

I really enjoyed Rendezvous with Rama when I read it as a sixteen year old. The sense of awe, the scale, the mystery: it was great. But nothing much happened and the story didn't really go anywhere interesting. I eagerly read the sequel, hoping it would unveil the mysteries, but it felt like it was not written by Clarke at all (I suspect Lee wrote it all). Instead of wonder, sci-fi and reveal, it was more about the h…

I too got bored, as you said the book did not seem to go anywhere.
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