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Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by dang »

shafyy wrote: post #13

> It has a CRM focus because we asked a couple dozen hard-core OpenClaw users "what do you actually do", and it was sales automation, lead enrichment, biz dev, creating slides, linkedin outreach, email/notion/calendar stuff, and it's always painful to set up. Fuck me, it's going to get worse before it gets better, isn't it?

I've taken that bit out of the text above - I originally advised Kumar to put it in there (it's actually from the opening of the demo video), but in hindsight, I should have known it would backfire with the HN audience.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by kumar_abhirup »

Everything is skills. In a file system. That is the future.

Responding to some HN comments, I understand the focus on Sales Automation and Outreach can be worrysome.

But for me personally, this is where I do all knowledge work. For me it acts like Cursor, Happenstance, News Aggregator, Fun games creator like Pacman (it has an App Store), I can import Notion into editable MD files, create reports and presentations, etc.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by zer00eyz »

> It has a CRM focus because we asked a couple dozen hard-core OpenClaw users "what do you actually do", and it was sales automation, lead enrichment, biz dev, creating slides, linkedin outreach, email/notion/calendar stuff, and it's always painful to set up.

So basic automation and forcing the web to be "open"...

No one is talking about how AI is going to destroy business models that are dependent on dark patterns, on walled gardens, on poorly designed one size fits all implementations (so many things wedged sideways into sales force).

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by iamacyborg »

kumar_abhirup wrote: post #40
iamacyborg wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The way imports work in DenchClaw is a bit unconventional, when you tell it to "import my HubSpot", the agent literally opens your browser (using the copied Chrome profile), navigates to HubSpot, triggers the export, and then ingests the downloaded files into the workspace DuckDB. What’s stopping the agent from doing literally any other thing in HubSpot? You know, small stuff like editing/deleting records, sensing…

Our HubSpot import seed skills have strong always on prompts for asking user before doing any action, and it knowing where to click. For actions faster than browser, the skill also knows how to use hubspot cli. Ideally for these pursposes, I would ALWAYS use Claude Opus 4.6 for this stuff, personally I have never seen it do unintended things to that extent. Also, when the browser opens you can supervise it doing the…

Right, but you and I both know that skill files are merely suggestions that the LLM often but not always follows

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by jesse_dot_id »

OpenClaw opens a wide attack surface on your digital life that cannot be remediated so long as hallucinations and prompt injection remain unsolved problems. Anything built on top of it is equally insecure and probably even more insecure.

I really don't want to yuck anybody's yums or step on dev work that I had nothing to do with, because I've been there and I know it sucks, but OpenClaw is barely secure enough to even play with in a sandbox. Giving it private information about your real business and real business contacts feels like an absolutely insane thing to do.

At best OpenClaw is like a toy... if the toy was a gun and it shot real bullets. This feels like playing Russian roulette with your livelihood.

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