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Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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This is as discriminatory as choosing strawberry ice cream over chocolate. To say, not at all.

What is your justification for that? If an employer did the same thing, would you argue that's also not discriminatory? Or, to pick a notorious example, if a cake shop only agreed to sell to straight couples, would that be the same? If not, why not?

In your cake shop example, the more accurate version would be some gay couples only agreeing to buy wedding cakes from cake shops with gay bakers.

On account of it's the customer choosing the service provider, albeit with the help of filters provided by an aggregator, instead of service providers denying service to customers based on their belonging to a class.

edit: I missed that you can, as a woman driver, also filter out male riders.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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This incident is creepy enough that I would also not agree to a give a random stranger a ride home, absent any additional context or mitigations. Maybe to avoid waking up in an ice bath with my liver gone. But, to not give a ride because of some perceived idea that they would claim you assaulted them or something is a bit "this person should go touch some grass" or whatever.

The world we live in is one where women being assaulted is an order of magnitude larger problem than women falsely accusing someone of assault.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Women's only gyms and hours exist already. If there's a need, and they feel safer this way, let them have it

> they feel safer this way, What if somebody started a Whites-only gym because it made them feel safer?

No one owes anyone moral consistency.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is as discriminatory as choosing strawberry ice cream over chocolate. To say, not at all.

What is your justification for that? If an employer did the same thing, would you argue that's also not discriminatory? Or, to pick a notorious example, if a cake shop only agreed to sell to straight couples, would that be the same? If not, why not?

> If an employer

Actually, in this case, the rider _is_ a (temporary) employer.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your justification for that? If an employer did the same thing, would you argue that's also not discriminatory? Or, to pick a notorious example, if a cake shop only agreed to sell to straight couples, would that be the same? If not, why not?

In your cake shop example, the more accurate version would be some gay couples only agreeing to buy wedding cakes from cake shops with gay bakers. On account of it's the customer choosing the service provider, albeit with the help of filters provided by an aggregator, instead of service providers denying service to customers based on their belonging to a class. edit: I missed that you can, as a woman driver, also fil…

Why does it change whether it's discrimination or not depending on who does it?

I don't see how the distinction is material.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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When faced with the choice of trusting a stranger, you turned it down, then made the decision about the lack of trust in the world? Trust in strangers has never been easy in the US. If something is to change, it has to start individually.

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