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One of those five he dropped.
Tragically this reference is all but lost generationally.
Born in 1988. It wasn't lost on me. Am I old now too?
Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
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Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like a high tech hell.
High tech hell is reversing the light cone, pulling everyone who ever lived throughout history back into consciousness by simulating them at the neurotransmitter level, and then forcing them into actual hell / torture simulators with no way to die. All without consent, mind you. That's also sci-fi. I hope. What I described before - using clonal technology to solve nearly every disease - is a medical miracle that will…
The same technology can also be used to force people to live with bodies engineered to make their existence a living hell. Similar things can be done with brain uploads.
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#163If this can be taken at face value... it's creepy. I get that they're doing it for the meme. But perhaps something getting close to human intelligence, made out of human cells, shouldn't be forced to play a violent video game without any alternative options? Does 'the meme' justify that? I dunno. Nothing against violent games myself. Just feels like it's starting to get quite questionable, ethically speaking.
Would it be able to distinguish between violent or not? Would it be suffering or not? What exactly does it get in terms of signals? Does it even, "experience" anything? Is it even an "it"?
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#164We already replicated Terminator.
Why not tackle Robocop next!
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like a high tech hell.
High tech hell is reversing the light cone, pulling everyone who ever lived throughout history back into consciousness by simulating them at the neurotransmitter level, and then forcing them into actual hell / torture simulators with no way to die. All without consent, mind you. That's also sci-fi. I hope. What I described before - using clonal technology to solve nearly every disease - is a medical miracle that will…
The two scenarios come in a package though. If you make one possible, the other one comes for free.
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#166If this can be taken at face value... it's creepy. I get that they're doing it for the meme. But perhaps something getting close to human intelligence, made out of human cells, shouldn't be forced to play a violent video game without any alternative options? Does 'the meme' justify that? I dunno. Nothing against violent games myself. Just feels like it's starting to get quite questionable, ethically speaking.
I mean, it's nowhere close to human intelligence, and it's still not a sentient being, so it cannot be "forced" to do anything, even if we take it at face value.
As for being creepy, the things humans do to other actual sentient beings are exponentially more horrifying and creepy than making them play computer games. If the monkeys that Volkswagen tortured with their exhaust gases were made to play Doom, that would be a much better world. And they are much, much closer to human-level intelligence than this chip.
Ethically speaking, it got "questionable" way long ago; this is not a valid concern for this project imo.
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
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It's 200k neurons. Less than an ant has. Somewhat creepy, but if you're imagining that this thing is conscious and knows that it's in doom... yeah definitely not. Still I don't understand why they would invite the extra creepy factor of using human brain cells rather than e.g. mouse brain cells. Surely it makes no difference biologically but it's going to lead to fewer comments like this.
Given that no one understands how the mental relates to the physical in the first place, I have no idea how you would reach such a confident conclusion about the phenomenological status of 200k human neurons in a petri dish playing Doom?
But we do understand where overconfidence usually come from, don't we?
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#168The anime Psycho-Pass comes to mind.
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
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It is horrifying. OTOH, we force-breed, torture and kill animals and their children in the millions every day just for the pleasure of consuming meat, eggs and dairy products. I'm not saying this makes it okay to create a conscious brain in a dish. But maybe thinking a little more about what constitutes consciousness and how we want to protect it from harm can also bring about some desperately needed change in some o…
> we force-breed, torture and kill animals and their children in the millions every day just for the pleasure of consuming meat, eggs and dairy products We do the same thing to plants. Why do you have no qualms about killing plants to eat the food they accumulated for their young? A grain of wheat and a chicken egg are evolutionarily and nutritionally, maybe even ontologically, indistinguishable from one another.
Your “what about plants” argument is such a worn-out trope that you must have seen it before and read a valid explanation of why it makes no sense.
Peter Singer has been writing on the topic for decades, including others. What-about-plants needs to fade away.
Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
#170So the whole reality for this little brain is literally pure hell :D
It's doom. It's a survival horror. You are the horror, the monsters try to survive.