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Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by hvb2 »

hamandcheese wrote: post #52
oDot wrote: post #39

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I used to run a site that compares prices[0]. Not only is the ecosystem pull to the cloud strong, but many developers today look at bare metal as downright daunting. Not sure where that fear comes from. Cloud challenges can be as or more complex than bare metal ones. [0]: https://baremetalsavings.com/

> Cloud challenges can be as or more complex than bare metal ones. Big +1 to this. For what I thought was a modest sized project it feels like an np-hard problem coordinating with gcloud account reps to figure out what regions have both enough hyperdisk capacity and compute capacity. A far cry from being able to just "download more ram" with ease. The cloud ain't magic folks, it's just someone else's servers. (All th…

> The cloud ain't magic folks, it's just someone else's servers.

The cloud is where the entire responsibility for those servers lives elsewhere.

If you're going to run a VM, sure. But when you're running a managed db with some managed compute, the cost for that might be high in comparison. But you just offloaded the whole infra management responsibility. That's their value add

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by spockz »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #120
spockz wrote: post #105

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Which OSS PaaS are there that are noteworthy? Or do you mean something like Kubernetes?

Coolify is usually loved by the community. Dokploy is another good one. Kubero seems nice for more kubernetes oriented tasks. But I feel like if someone is having a single piece of hardware as the OP did. Kubernetes might not be of as much help and Coolify/Dokploy are so much simpler in that regards.

Thanks. I will look into those.

I suppose kubernetes with the right operators installed and the right node labels applied could almost work as a self service control plane. But then VMs have to run in kubevirt. There is crossplane but that needs another IaaS to do its thing.

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by andai »

deaux wrote: post #76

Vultr and HostHatch are also worth considering.

Vultr topped the benchies a few years ago. Not sure how they fare now, would be good to see some more recent benchmarks. Was sad to see them missing from this one.

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by andai »

rr808 wrote: post #4

Still having your own hardware seems so much cheaper. Maybe even just for dev/uat environments? Every big corporate I have worked at has lower cost of capital than Amazon, and yet they want to move to AWS. I just dont understand it.

I think it's incentives. Working with AWS is good for your resume. It's also a responsibility thing. If AWS is down then it's Amazon's fault. If there's a problem with your physical server, then it's your problem.

A broader thing here is -- and you may also notice this trend in software -- employees are incentivized towards complex solutions, while business owners are incentivized towards simple solutions.

(Shiny object syndrome sold separately ;)

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by LKummer »

jiggawatts wrote: post #3
nixgeek wrote: post #2

Genoa was a big leap from Milan. Turin is a huge leap again. AMD really is doing spectacularly well at the moment. Kudos to Lisa Su and the team.

> Kudos to Lisa Su and the team. They're a typical hardware maker unable to focus on software, which is why NVIDIA is now a multi-trillion dollar corporation and AMD is "just" a few hundred billion. They've focused too much on CPUs and completely dropped the ball on AI and compute accelerators. It's especially sad considering that the MI300 and related accelerators on paper are competitive with NVIDIA hardware, it's…

Nvidia datacenter GPUs have awful software. If they focus on it they're not doing a good job.

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by gizzlon »

rozenmd wrote: post #138
AussieWog93 wrote: post #80

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Hetzner charge between €10 and €48 for an 8vcpu setup, depending on how many other users you're happy to share with. For €104/mo you can get a 16-core Ryzen 9 7950X3D (basically identical to your 4565p) w/ 128GB DDR5, 2x2TB PCIE Gen4 SSD. That's not to say you're wrong about dedicated being much better value than VPS on a performance per dollar basis, but the markup that the European companies charge is much, much lo…

I'd be terrified to run anything other than a classic web server on Hetzner, have heard too many stories of them arbitrarily terminating workloads they didn't understand.

really? like what? Maybe crypto mining?

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by gizzlon »

justinclift wrote: post #98
darkwater wrote: post #87

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Yeah I expected this benchmark to include hosted "metal" hardware with the "per instruction cost" benchmark to see how provider like Hetnzer fare against classic AWS VMs. It's a bit apple to oranges I know, but I think nowadays is what most people compared pure performance cost are interested in. I'm not going to migrate from AWS VMs to GCP or Hetzner VMs, but I might be open to Hetzner hosted servers instead for a m…

> ... but I might be open to Hetzner hosted servers instead for a massive enough cost reduction. Don't use Hetzner for anything actually important to you. :( As to why: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45481328

To be honest, I find it hard to believe this is common. They have been around for ages and are quite beloved by many. Maybe something went wrong in this case?

Guess I will find out, think my cc expires soon.

Also, you can pay by bank transfer, at least for dedicated.

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by sroussey »

NERD_ALERT wrote: post #131
sroussey wrote: post #71

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I dunno… for setup, yes absolutely. One time cost in time. After that, not really.

It’s absolutely not a one time cost. Once you have it you need to hire people full time to maintain it and eventually upgrade it. Hardware fails constantly

I've done this for decades with a full rack. Stuff fails on occasion. So what?

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by cantalopes »

scorpioxy wrote: post #94
veeti wrote: post #86

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OVH has dedicated in USA and Canada

I've read several reports from customers saying that their customer service is really bad. Difficult to know with online reviews of course. Does anyone have positive stories to share? I am looking at Australian hosts specifically and Hetzner doesn't have any data centers here.

Using them for production for years, never dissapointed.

What you should be aware of is their new exploration of s3 storage. I mean, the s3 works and everything but it's still too eaely - the servers are kind of slow and sometimes fail to upload/download. They are still tuning out the storage architecture. The api key management is kind of too primitive (although much more headache free than configuring aws), and the online file browser is lacking

But for vps servers - they are battletested veterans

Re: Cloud VM benchmarks 2026

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Post by justinclift »

gizzlon wrote: post #147
justinclift wrote: post #98

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> ... but I might be open to Hetzner hosted servers instead for a massive enough cost reduction. Don't use Hetzner for anything actually important to you. :( As to why: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45481328

To be honest, I find it hard to believe this is common. They have been around for ages and are quite beloved by many. Maybe something went wrong in this case? Guess I will find out, think my cc expires soon. Also, you can pay by bank transfer, at least for dedicated.

> To be honest, I find it hard to believe this is common.

I agree. But it still happened, with literally no warning (I actually checked), and their support staff refused to even call me to get updated card details when I was in the middle of an actual cyclone. ie phone service worked, internet didn't

Directly impacting our customers, who were extremely unhappy (to say the least).

"Fuck Hetzner!" is not nearly strong enough to convey the sentiment.

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