Future robots will be powered by human brain cells. Companies will use them as conscious slaves and they'll get around slavery laws by saying they're not human.
I’m reminded of the brain in a jar robots from Fallout.
Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]
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#12Be sure to dig into the details before taking this at face value. There once was a story "Rat brain flies plane" a couple decades ago, and it turned out to be bogus. But to find that out, you had to read the paper and reverse engineer that nothing substantial was actually going on. It's tempting to be charitable, but you can't really know whether headlines like this are legit till you understand exactly what they did…
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#13> We’ve combined lab-grown neurons with silicon chips and made it available to anyone, for first time ever. There is a line somewhere here that I personally feel we should not cross.
100% We know that neurons can produce subjective experience. This is the first time in my life that I've felt a scientific avenue of research should shut down.
At the very very least there are more productive ways of spending time.
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#14Billions of living human brain cells have played Doom in a number of different devices for a couple of decades now.
What would be surprising is for dead human cells to play anything at all.
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#15> We’ve combined lab-grown neurons with silicon chips and made it available to anyone, for first time ever. There is a line somewhere here that I personally feel we should not cross.
100% We know that neurons can produce subjective experience. This is the first time in my life that I've felt a scientific avenue of research should shut down.
Animal testing, weapons testing, medical trials, cloning, psychological experiments… had you just never considered them before? Why this?
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#16> We’ve combined lab-grown neurons with silicon chips and made it available to anyone, for first time ever. There is a line somewhere here that I personally feel we should not cross.
100% We know that neurons can produce subjective experience. This is the first time in my life that I've felt a scientific avenue of research should shut down.
We don't really know that.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% We know that neurons can produce subjective experience. This is the first time in my life that I've felt a scientific avenue of research should shut down.
Animal testing, weapons testing, medical trials, cloning, psychological experiments… had you just never considered them before? Why this?
Same reason people get scared to fly but drive everyday. Humans are simultaneously wildly irrational and terrible at calculating risk.
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#18I've never understood why they do this research with human neurons when any neurons would do.
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#19It’s the first time I’ve heard about this company, and of course I haven’t taken the time to check how real their product is, but honestly, for me it’s very difficult to believe we currently have the technology to correctly integrate a living neuron into a chip, let alone compute anything meaningful with it.
From what I’ve read elsewhere, our understanding of neurons is still very basic, and we need a lot more fundamental research before reaching results like these. We still don’t even properly know how migraines work, nor can we cure paraplegia, yet somehow we supposedly have the capacity to grow second brains and program them on top of that.
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#20It is going to be quite the ethical dilemma if/when these machines produce text output comparable to a modern LLM...