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Anybody who stays at openai is signing on to build machines that will be used to kill innocent people and control people who think that’s a bad idea.
And paying off their mortgage and feeding their families and has a job in unstable times.
Morals come a distant last in the current state of affairs.
To save a click > I resigned from OpenAI. I care deeply about the Robotics team and the work we built together. This wasn’t an easy call. AI has an important role in national security. But surveillance of Americans without judicial oversight and lethal autonomy without human authorization are lines that deserved more deliberation than they got. This was about principle, not people. I have deep respect for Sam and the…
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I can't help but to feel like this is an odd moral position to take. OP is apparently fine with building technology to spy on civilians in other countries, and I don't see a moral relevance to citizenship on this matter. If spying on civilians is fundamentally wrong, it doesn't become OK when the people live in a different region of the world. If spying on civilians is fundamentally OK, then why would there be a mora…
I agree mass surveillance is fundamentally wrong, but it's reasonable for people to feel greater responsibility towards the citizens of your own country, and how they are treated by your government.
Anybody who stays at openai is signing on to build machines that will be used to kill innocent people and control people who think that’s a bad idea.
> Anybody who stays at openai And paying off their mortgage and feeding their families and has a job in unstable times. Morals come a distant last in the current state of affairs.
The way you frame it, you make it sound like an engineer at OpenAI has no choice but to work there or end up on the street. But an engineer at OpenAI is not going to end up driving a truck, they're going to remain and engineer.
I have a hard time with this separation of “principle” from “people”. Isn’t it people who have principles?
“It’s not X, it’s Y” is a common ChatGPT trope used to give a sense of depth to a statement but the specific contrast is generally murky like this. This Tweet was either written by ChatGPT or heavily influenced by ChatGPT style.
I can't help but to feel like this is an odd moral position to take. OP is apparently fine with building technology to spy on civilians in other countries, and I don't see a moral relevance to citizenship on this matter. If spying on civilians is fundamentally wrong, it doesn't become OK when the people live in a different region of the world. If spying on civilians is fundamentally OK, then why would there be a mora…
I agree that the killbots red line is somewhat odd, but I guess you have to draw the line somewhere, and I prefer them having that principle to having no principle at all. (Also, it's possible that the AI insiders understand something I don't about why a human in the loop is important.)
Anybody who stays at openai is signing on to build machines that will be used to kill innocent people and control people who think that’s a bad idea.
Or onto mass surveillance which is a pathway to social credit score style oppression. See this mass surveillance demo: https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/8f42e48f-1b35-450d-8dda-2...
Anybody who stays at openai is signing on to build machines that will be used to kill innocent people and control people who think that’s a bad idea.
> Anybody who stays at openai And paying off their mortgage and feeding their families and has a job in unstable times. Morals come a distant last in the current state of affairs.
I can't help but to feel like this is an odd moral position to take. OP is apparently fine with building technology to spy on civilians in other countries, and I don't see a moral relevance to citizenship on this matter. If spying on civilians is fundamentally wrong, it doesn't become OK when the people live in a different region of the world. If spying on civilians is fundamentally OK, then why would there be a mora…
Spying on your own citizens enables certain sorts of anti-democratic abuses (and has been used that way in the past), so I can understand the specific opposition to it. Put somewhat melodramatically, they're okay with spying but don't want to create self-coup tools. I agree that the killbots red line is somewhat odd, but I guess you have to draw the line somewhere, and I prefer them having that principle to having no…
Also it's a rather American-centric view. If a Canadian is working at OpenAI, should they care? Or would they care more about possible anti-democratic interference by the American government on Canada?