I resigned from OpenAI • Hacker News Board

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by afavour » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 1:58 AM UTC

naveen99 wrote: post #33

lostmsu wrote: post #5

To save a click > I resigned from OpenAI. I care deeply about the Robotics team and the work we built together. This wasn’t an easy call. AI has an important role in national security. But surveillance of Americans without judicial oversight and lethal autonomy without human authorization are lines that deserved more deliberation than they got. This was about principle, not people. I have deep respect for Sam and the…

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I don’t see the relevance in the question, the US does not have open borders. And if you’re suggesting AI is somehow magically able to detect citizen from non-citizen then your understanding of AI is woeful.

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by tartoran » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 1:58 AM UTC

suzzer99 wrote: post #60

ed_mercer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m worried that China will build said killing machines and that we’ll be unprepared.

I got scared when I saw China's synchronized drone swarms at the Beijing Olympics, which I believe was the point.

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Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by tastyface » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:13 AM UTC

naveen99 wrote: post #33

lostmsu wrote: post #5

To save a click > I resigned from OpenAI. I care deeply about the Robotics team and the work we built together. This wasn’t an easy call. AI has an important role in national security. But surveillance of Americans without judicial oversight and lethal autonomy without human authorization are lines that deserved more deliberation than they got. This was about principle, not people. I have deep respect for Sam and the…

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It's trivially easy to find our criminals. After all, we made one our president.

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by add-sub-mul-div » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:15 AM UTC

threethirtytwo wrote: post #18

That twitter post was clearly written by AI along with the instructions for the AI to avoid "tells" and other tropes common to AI. Absolutely nothing wrong with something written with AI. Just pointing it out.

We're nearing or at an inflection point where people like this are dependent on it.

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by OhioMan2943 » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:16 AM UTC

smallnix wrote: post #50

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #25

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The myth of american moral superiority had been dead for a while. Why would china be any more evil than the US, which has waged far more colonialist wars and killed far more foreign lives in recent times (look at the news today for inspiration)

Uighur concentration camps? Falun Gong organ harvesting?

Vietnam war, iraq war, afghanistan war, iran war, gaza war, allowing iraq to get and use chemical weapons on iran, forced regime change in south america (then and now). Get real it's not equivalent in any way

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:20 AM UTC

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #25

ed_mercer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m worried that China will build said killing machines and that we’ll be unprepared.

The myth of american moral superiority had been dead for a while. Why would china be any more evil than the US, which has waged far more colonialist wars and killed far more foreign lives in recent times (look at the news today for inspiration)

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Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by OhioMan2943 » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:21 AM UTC

afavour wrote: post #30

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The myth of american moral superiority had been dead for a while. Why would china be any more evil than the US, which has waged far more colonialist wars and killed far more foreign lives in recent times (look at the news today for inspiration)

I don’t see any contradiction with what the OP said, though. You don’t have to be morally superior to still be concerned about a country’s forces killing you.

It's a reversal of the more likely situation which is the us getting it and china following in response. Nuclear weapons anyone? Remember who started those.

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by nerfbatplz » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:23 AM UTC

ed_mercer wrote: post #19

kennywinker wrote: post #16

Anybody who stays at openai is signing on to build machines that will be used to kill innocent people and control people who think that’s a bad idea.

I’m worried that China will build said killing machines and that we’ll be unprepared.

The last time China bombed a foreign country was 1979, 47 years ago. Has the US gone even 47 days in the last 80 years without bombing another country?

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by smilebot » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 2:57 AM UTC

ta9000 wrote: post #58

“I don’t think we should spy on Americans and I don’t think we should kill people without human oversight but I still have respect for the guy willing to do that”. Please, make it make sense.

It’s not you, it’s me.

Re: I resigned from OpenAI

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Post by slopinthebag » Sun, Mar 08, 2026, 3:02 AM UTC

I can't help but to feel like this is an odd moral position to take. OP is apparently fine with building technology to spy on civilians in other countries, and I don't see a moral relevance to citizenship on this matter. If spying on civilians is fundamentally wrong, it doesn't become OK when the people live in a different region of the world. If spying on civilians is fundamentally OK, then why would there be a moral exception for civilians who live inside the geographical region in which the company is legally registered? Perhaps someone can enlighten me here.

The autonomous killing thing is more reasonable, but still, if you're OK building death technology, I'm not exactly sure what difference having a human in the loop makes. It's still death.