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Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by amarant »

epolanski wrote: post #5

I've got tinnitus, 38 male. Got it randomly one day this summer. It's impossible to describe how depressing it is to hear a sound non stop in your ears, night and day, wherever I go or whatever I do, it just never stops. The brain started filtering it out a bit after months, but it's always there and you're often reminded of it when you're in a slightly more silent environment. There are days where it becomes especia…

Similar, I went past an event that was playing unusually loud music last may. I ended up with tinnitus and hyperacusis.

I don't know which is worse, but the combination has me contemplating euthanasia on a regular basis

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by technothrasher »

microtonal wrote: post #43
nozzlegear wrote: post #34

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I've had tinnitus for as long as I can remember, so I've never had any negative feelings associated with it. As a kid I just thought it was natural that everyone's ears would ring all the time and would get louder when it was quiet. My ears are ringing right now as I write this. Then I developed pulsatile tinnitus in my early 30s, which means I can hear my heartbeat in my (right) ear at all hours of the day as well.…

I've had tinnitus for as long as I can remember, so I've never had any negative feelings associated with it. As a kid I just thought it was natural that everyone's ears would ring all the time and would get louder when it was quiet. My ears are ringing right now as I write this. I don't know if I have tinnitus. I had strong ringing in my ears every now and then as a kid. I once told a classmate about this, who said I…

> I have no idea if other people have this kind of permanent beep as well, because I never asked anyone.

We do. I've had tinnitus all my life, or at least I can remember it as far back as about four years old or so. It sounds to me like the whine of an old CRT. I thought it was just normal until I learned it wasn't. I used to think as a kid that it was what the Simon and Garfunkel song "The Sound of Silence" was talking about. Luckily for me it's just something that's always been, so it doesn't really bother me. I have no idea what it would be like to not actually hear anything at all. The one time I was in a sound isolation chamber, it just made my tinnitus scream.

My neighbor developed tinnitus later in his life and it drives him crazy. I definitely feel bad for him, and others who are similarly afflicted by it.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by Marsymars »

toast0 wrote: post #98
kylecazar wrote: post #95

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60 bps is a fine HR, if you are implying it isn't Edit: WHOOPSIE DAISY

Heart beat is usually measured in bpm. All the charts top out at 200. 360 bpm is certainly problematic for a human.

3600 bpm would be even more problematic.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by sonofhans »

zimpenfish wrote: post #92
BOSIG wrote: post #49

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I got a high-pitch ringing tinnitus when I was about 18-20. I went from being a person that falls asleep in But no matter how cliché it sounds, it does get better with time. The brain does get better and better with filtering it. I also discovered that my tinnitus gets worse with caffeine, stress and lack of sleep. In periods when I live a overall "healthy" lifestyle in respect to sleep, stress, food, working out etc…

> But no matter how cliché it sounds, it does get better with time. For some, perhaps, but mine (25+ years) has not improved one jot. At best I've learnt to manage it with masking sounds (thanks to MyNoise) but it's always there waiting for a quiet moment. Might be to do with how well your general auditory circuitry was working in the first place, mind - e.g. I've always had the "two noises at once tend toward garbag…

WRT “mechanical damage” — I feel you. Standing in front of the stage feeling your organs vibrate in time to the music is fucking magic. I won’t say that it’s worth the tinnitus, but I am happy I have some memories of a trade-off, you know?

FWIW I still go to shows sometimes, and stand right in front of the stage to feel my eyeballs vibrating. I wear good ear protection, though, and feel no pain. Even though the music isn’t quite the same.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by sonofhans »

armchairhacker wrote: post #51
mynameisash wrote: post #30

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I'm really sorry to hear that. I once read something about the prevalence of depression in people with tinnitus. I was surprised by it, but I didn't really consider how disruptive it must be when you're accustomed to not having it. By contrast, I've had it basically my whole life. I remember laying awake at night, listening to the deafening ringing, thinking about how weird it was that silence isn't silent. It wasn't…

> silence isn't silent Blindness isn’t “no sight” or pitch black, there’s visual snow. If you pay attention, you can always feel your muscles/joints. Sometimes I smell burnt popcorn, but not usually, but maybe that’s because smell is always present. Similarly always taste saliva. Also see sensory deprivation experiments. We don’t seem able to experience “absence of sensation”.

This is not analogous to tinnitus. I remember before and after tinnitus, and it’s as different from visual snow as real snow is from an ice pick in your ear.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by NetMageSCW »

jaybrendansmith wrote: post #84
jarnagin wrote: post #24

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I got it about ten years ago and it drove me absolutely insane for a few months until I just accepted that I would have it. Then a weird thing happened: my brain stopped paying attention to it. Now I mostly only hear it when I think to myself, “do I still have tinnitus?” and try to listen for it. It’s still there, I just don’t care anymore. I had no idea that even what you hear can be such a subjective experience unt…

This is my experience. It normally doesn't bother me, and I didn't think about it until I read this article, so now it is driving me crazy. Please let's stop posting articles about Tinnitus unless the article describes a CURE. Thanks.

Perhaps you could learn to not read those articles?

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by martinpw »

spl757 wrote: post #79
sgt wrote: post #72

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A lot of people hear a slight hiss. Is that tinnitus? Faint enough that it's not noticable 90% of the time.

Any noise you hear that is not a real sound that others can hear is tinnitus. The actual experience for people with the condition varies, for some it's a hiss, for some it's a tone, for me it's a really loud, multi-tonal, warbling sound between 11khz and 15khz. If anyone has tinnitus and wants to know what frequency it is that you your brain is perceiving just go online and find a tone generator and start increasing…

How does this work in combination with age related hearing loss? At some point you will lose high frequency sensitivity in that 11-15Khz range. Would be nice to get some benefit from that, but I assume the tinnitus itself will not go away even if it hangs out at that frequency?

It also means the above experiment will not work since you lose the signal before you reach your tinnitus frequency.

Re: Tinnitus Is Connected to Sleep

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Post by Marsymars »

I have, I think, probably the most benign tinnitus I could imagine.

I randomly get something in my head that sounds pretty close to coil whine, but definitely isn't coil whine — I've had it when I'm in the depths of the wilderness with no electronics.

It typically lasts less than 20s and I can go months between occurrences.

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