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Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by stpedgwdgfhgdd »

samiv wrote: post #51

As a principal engineer I feel completely let down. I've spent decades building up and accumulating expert knowledge and now that has been massively devalued. Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I feel depressed and very unmotivated and expect to retire soon. Talk about a rug pull! My experience is that people who weren't very good at writing software are the ones now "most excited" to "create" w…

No worries. True, you need to learn new skills to work properly with Claude. However, 30 yrs of coding experience come in handy to quickly detect it is going in the wrong direction. Especially on an architectural level you need to guide it.

Embrace

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

samiv wrote: post #51

As a principal engineer I feel completely let down. I've spent decades building up and accumulating expert knowledge and now that has been massively devalued. Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I feel depressed and very unmotivated and expect to retire soon. Talk about a rug pull! My experience is that people who weren't very good at writing software are the ones now "most excited" to "create" w…

> Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software

I have been thinking about the "same software"

Because I remember seeing Sonnet 4.5 and I had made comments that time as well that I just wanted AI to stop developing more as the more it develops, the more harm to the economy/engineers it would do than benefit in totality.

It was good enough to make scripts, I could make random scripts/one-off projects, something which I couldn't do previously but I used to still copy-paste it and run commands and I gave it the language to choose and everything. At that time, All I wanted was the models getting smaller/open source.

Now, I would say that even an Idiot making software with AI is gonna reach AI fatigue at one point or another and it just feels so detached with agents.

I do think that we would've been better off in society if we could've stopped the models at sonnet 4.5. We do now have models which are small and competitive to sonnet (Qwen,GLM,[kimi is a little large])

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by outside1234 »

samiv wrote: post #51

As a principal engineer I feel completely let down. I've spent decades building up and accumulating expert knowledge and now that has been massively devalued. Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I feel depressed and very unmotivated and expect to retire soon. Talk about a rug pull! My experience is that people who weren't very good at writing software are the ones now "most excited" to "create" w…

It is weird because I am the opposite. The symbols were never the objective for me but instead how they all fit together.

Now I am like a perfect weapon because I have the wisdom to know what I want to build and I don't have to translate it to an army of senior engineers. I just have Github Copilot implement it directly.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by nicoloren »

Same here! I'm working on a simple game and I use Claude Code to make it with Phaser, and I am not a game dev. I used Claude to plan it (with a chat for 3 hours), it made a document to describe everything I wanted in the game (the spec). Next I use Claude Code to implement every aspect of the game step by step. I didn't know the framework Phaser, but after each step I review the code and learn a lot. I don't think I would have it working so fast without Claude Code. I can focus on the spec and learn the framework. I code maybe 5% of it, everything is made by Claude Code.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by DaRealGraybeard »

I'm writing this at 4am on a Friday night (Saturday morning now I guess), hacking up a next-gen Faxing platform. Had it on my mind for years and never had the time for the coding or the research I needed to fill in the gaps in my knowledge.

Claude has made my coding sessions WAY more productive and helps me find bugs and plan features like never before.

I'm also dealing with some career bullshit, so having a tool like this has helped me re-discover what I love about computing that capitalism has beaten out of me.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by rkuodys »

rapnie wrote: post #219
post-it wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If AI completely erases the profession of software developer, I'll find something else to do. Like I can't in good faith ever oppose a technology just because it's going to make my job redundant, that would be insane.

Take that to its extreme. Suppose there was a technology that you do not own that would make everyone's job redundant. Everyone out of a job. There is no need for education, for skills to be mastered, for expertise. Would it still be insane to complain?

Isnt' that what old-school software did for many years? It used to take jobs, just not from developers. If you implement software that takes accounting from 10 people to 2, 8 just got fired. If you have Support solution helping one support rep answer 100 requests instead of 20, you just optimised support force by the rate of 1 to 5.

I'm in the boat of SaaS myself, but feel a bit dishonesty from Senior devs complaining about technology stealing jobs. When it was them doing the stealing, it was fine. Now that the tables have turned, it's not technology is bad

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by DaRealGraybeard »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #222
card_zero wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you put these all in the same category: gaining knowledge, gaining abilities, and just obtaining things. I gatekeep my bike, I keep it behind a gate. If you break the gate open and democratize my bike, you're an idiot.

it is more like: You gatekeep your bike, you keep it behind a gate, you don't let anyone else ride it. Your neighbor got a nicer bike for Christmas, rode it by your house and now you are sad because you aren't the special kid with the bike any more, you are just regular kid like your neighbor.

Jesus that's brutal. Accurate. But I feel attacked ;p

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by rdiddly »

slopinthebag wrote: post #254
lovelearning wrote: post #171

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> Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I must say I find this idea, and this wording, elitist in a negative way. I don't see any fundamental problem with democratization of abilities and removal of gatekeeping. Chances are, you were able to accumulate your expert knowledge only because: - book writing and authorship was democratized away from the church and academia - web content publication and p…

People actually value the effort and dedication required to master a craft. Imagine we invent a drug that allows everyone to achieve olympic level athletic performance, would you say that it "democratises" sports? No, that would be ridiculous.

It would democratize sports, while making sports worthless and unremarkable. It would collapse the market for sports.

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Post by cowboylowrez »

mchaver wrote: post #262
rapnie wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take that to its extreme. Suppose there was a technology that you do not own that would make everyone's job redundant. Everyone out of a job. There is no need for education, for skills to be mastered, for expertise. Would it still be insane to complain?

Then society needs to collectively decide how to allocate resources. Uh oh!

the resources go to the guys with the AI duh

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by bob1029 »

samiv wrote: post #51

As a principal engineer I feel completely let down. I've spent decades building up and accumulating expert knowledge and now that has been massively devalued. Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I feel depressed and very unmotivated and expect to retire soon. Talk about a rug pull! My experience is that people who weren't very good at writing software are the ones now "most excited" to "create" w…

> Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software.

They simply can't in my experience. Most people cannot prompt their way out of a wet paper sack. The HN community is bathed in thoughtful, high quality writing 24/7/365, so I could see how a perception to the contrary might develop.

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