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Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

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Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

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I don't think this will make a good general forum. The comment box is small. It doesn't look like it would promote lengthy responses with images / video and whatever else. For me the main problem with forums like phpBB is noise from signatures / profiles / layouts etc and noise from nonsense responses. Often the best response will be buried in page 2 or 3. 5 people will be having conversations back and forth and ever…

The comment box expands as you type.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#52
post #36

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Not really. You are just looking at the top, progressive layer of the web. There are still tons of niche forums using old software like vBulletin but with lots of traffic. Anything from car enthusiast sites to bodybuilding.

That's true. I think JLehtinen refers to the fact that if you are about to pick a forum software on your site today you still have to choose from these very old systems.

Oh, yeah, I agree. These are very bloated, outdated solutions. But I don't think the site administrators are really interested in doing a full overhaul. Could possibly hurt SEO. Porting over old posts and data would be difficult too.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#53

No, no, no. I refuse to invest any hope in a forum that is not interested in doing properly nested comments. How are your comments systems any better than Disqus or (the superior in appearance and functionality) Livefyre?

Nested comments is something we actually decided not to implement. Look at this HN thread for example. It's very hard to follow and see what are the new ones. Sometimes I search for "minutes" to get entries that are within last hour. If you want to branch out from a reply that's a new topic. We'll make that easier on later versions but definitely not nested comments.

I am not sure if nested comments are really necessary for a forum either. For example, I see a lot of hacker news threads link to other threads in the same post where a response has been provided (I see one in this post as well).

However, I think user addressability (@xxx) is important in a flat forum.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#54

I’m creating a new forum CMS in Django for fun basically, if anyone wants to kick the tires of it and try something newer than the usual CMSes: http://pygm.us/nPrOiHJo . I don’t know which Greek letter you’d use for its progress, but it is not in any way close to a beta. It can be deployed to dotCloud in a handful of steps, though. Disregard the Travis CI build failure; I think it was just a time-out on their end. It…

Thanks! You can be sure that we're doing this very seriously and we see a lot of business opportunities but more about that later.. The fact is that we're not afraid to get the Big Load of Many forums.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#55
post #43

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Moot = verb (used with object) to present or introduce (any point, subject, project, etc.) for discussion. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moot Cannot think of a better domain name.

Just because the definition of the word sort of describes what the product is doesn't mean it's the best domain name. moot is the name of someone that developed an extremely popular site that also facilitates re-imagined forums and commenting.

It surely is re-imagined. For example:

http://boards.4chan.org/c/

Even with 4chan we think moot.it is the best domain name for us and we'll both see how it works.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#56

Keeping customers inside the site is a priority for some (vs. pushing some discussions to say zendesk) and this fits in perfectly. btw, may be make the 'try live demo' link a bit prominent and have a hint about how to close the fullscreen carousel on the homepage? had me confused there for a moment.

We'll do the official release rather soon so we don't put too much efforts on that beta intro page.

Thanks anyway.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#57
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true. I think JLehtinen refers to the fact that if you are about to pick a forum software on your site today you still have to choose from these very old systems.

Oh, yeah, I agree. These are very bloated, outdated solutions. But I don't think the site administrators are really interested in doing a full overhaul. Could possibly hurt SEO. Porting over old posts and data would be difficult too.

Yea. Those are valid concerns for sites with existing forums. We're making importers and dump SEO friendly data for crawlers.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#58

No, no, no. I refuse to invest any hope in a forum that is not interested in doing properly nested comments. How are your comments systems any better than Disqus or (the superior in appearance and functionality) Livefyre?

This is basically what a forum is, though. Commenting services like reddit, HN, and Disqus obviously differ, but they are altogether different than forums.

It's obviously still okay to dislike this structure, but that's what forums (bulletin boards) are basically about.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#59
post #58

No, no, no. I refuse to invest any hope in a forum that is not interested in doing properly nested comments. How are your comments systems any better than Disqus or (the superior in appearance and functionality) Livefyre?

This is basically what a forum is, though. Commenting services like reddit, HN, and Disqus obviously differ, but they are altogether different than forums. It's obviously still okay to dislike this structure, but that's what forums (bulletin boards) are basically about.

I think you are seriously wrong about this. Nesting is a feature and many think it's a bad one.

Re: Moot.it: Forums and commenting re-imagined

#60

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I'm not sure of what you're imaging but 2 recent new sites somewhat related are: http://www.branch.com/ http://www.pivory.com/

Wow, Pivory is clean and well done, no threading though, a shame.

What's good in pivory?
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