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Post by Pxtl »

superxpro12 wrote: post #81
Pxtl wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because of first COVID-19 and the post-peak economic chaos distracting us, and then afterwards Trump and Putin and Netenyahu and the global rise of erratic mayhem as a political platform. https://xkcd.com/2275/ Eventually we'll have to deal with the Giant Spider Downtown, it's just that the to-do list is growing from the top.

It's foolish to assume this is not a calculated effort. It's make us feel good that there isn't people who are actually evil enough to coordinate these full-blown authoritarian campaigns. Consider for a moment that there ARE people this straight-up evil....

Maybe for Putin, but for Trump it's hard to see it as anything but his completely mercurial nature just causing so much random melodrama that less-urgent problems completely vanish. The same people who love carbon also hate the damage he's doing to global markets. I mean except Putin again.

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Post by triceratops »

_heimdall wrote: post #63
leetharris wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Why so blatantly lean into Jevans paradox? In this case, there is no ceiling on global emissions. If one country reduces to zero there would absolutely be less emissions than if they hadn't. There's no incentive for China and India to pick up the slack and create more pollution just to cover what the US stopped making.

It's not real. Even if it's real it doesn't matter what I do. Any more lies?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by ecshafer »

The issue with any significant steps to curbing the climate or environmental impacts with laws or treaties is always: But the economy. It creates an incentive where someone doesn't follow the laws, burn everything they can to accelerate their economy, and take industry from other countries.

My proposal is thus: create a supranational treaty organization with a EPA like authority(or whatever the European equivalent is) that can inspect and fine companies in member organizations. Then any treaty members agree with the following conditions: The EPA can enter their nation freely, inspect, and are able to fine companies that break rules. Members send delegates to a session to create new rules democratically. And most importantly all members act as a cartel, imposing large tariffs on any country outside of the organization. So if US was in and Mexico was out, you couldn't just pollute in Mexico, without some massive tariff. This creates an economic incentive to be in and clean.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by ncr100 »

spwa4 wrote: post #80

Was anybody really expecting anything else? The only factor that would matter is if oil producing nations STOP producing oil entirely. Not reduce, not limit, stop. Same with coal and other small contributions. Note: limiting exports, CO2 limits in oil customer states, ... all of that just doesn't matter. And, obviously, this is just not on the table. There is no way these nations will make such a decision because wha…

Your initial question is a fantastic thought focus.

The intention of the United States and the world is divided.

We love our money too much to care about the Next generation, In my view.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by luxuryballs »

afandian wrote: post #2

This is open access. No need to post a researchgate link. Here's the original: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-6079807/v1

I’m out of the loop on researchgate, when you say “No need” is it like an archive.is? Why is it less desirable or, if I’m reading your tone correctly, a “backup option”?

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Post by bluGill »

ndiddy wrote: post #108

I don't see the US doing anything about global warming regardless of who's in charge. China has won on manufacturing cheap wind/solar energy and is scaling up their cheap EV manufacturing right now. Trump is definitely accelerating China's future dominance by completely forgoing anything related to developing or manufacturing green tech in favor of fossil fuels, but I think both parties would rather get into a confli…

China is clearly gearing up for war for Taiwan, and it is highly likely the US will be involved if that happens. That is why both Republicans and Democrats are worried about China. I can't say what will happen in the future, but if you are not worried about this you are not paying attention.

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Post by alberto467 »

gspr wrote: post #37
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #11

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Your attempts at derailing the discourse is not only frustrating – in the case of climate change it might just kill us all. You're a danger.

I don't know what bothers me more, the guy trolling or you calling people "a danger" for posting literally a single question.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by AlexeyBrin »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #104
captainbland wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm sure that subconsciously influenced what I wrote, it was more a general jab at the sentiment that negative externalities can always be justified so long as a technology has users who prefer to use it.

Yeah. Did you see article that they made a brain organoid (actual brain neurons on a chip) play DOOM?. What are those neurons experiencing?

> What are those neurons experiencing?

A reasonable explanation is that a few neurons probably don't have conscience so they can't really experience anything.

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