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Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by rounce »

f6v wrote: post #24
xyzelement wrote: post #5

As an observation, global warming has completely disappeared as social concern in the last few years. Great that someone is still publishing research, but it seems like being a climate scientist has gone from hottest field to nobody cares.

The problem is, no amount of climate policies in the West is going to offset burning fuel in the developing counties. It’s a global phenomenon and addressing it locally is futile. That, and you don’t have the luxury of green solutions when energy prices were going through the roof.

Surely it's better to be more reliant on domestically/locally produced wind and solar when oil and gas production by 3rd party countries is plummeting?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by _heimdall »

ck2 wrote: post #6

Basically the oceans are way way way too hot which is melting even the most ancient ice and that can never be undone in our lifetimes (well maybe from a nuclear winter) USA is about to have another El Nino summer which will be scorching from overheating oceans But don't worry, USA is solving the problem by Biden banning cheap electric cars and Trump ending electric subsidies entirely, forcing coal plants to restart

Electric cars aren't a magic bullet. We need to drive less, not scrap ICE vehicles and buy new electric vehicles made on the other side of the planet with globally sourced materials and shipped to the US.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by abm53 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #11

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The article doesn’t present any hypotheses regarding this, and I suspect we simply don’t know yet.

But if true presumably it’s one of the usual reasons for observing data with low likelihood according to a model: misspecification or statistical bias/variance.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by xyzelement »

hackyhacky wrote: post #20
afh1 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Polls say otherwise. 63 percent of Americans are worried you about the environment. Attempts to minimize the danger of climate change, as you have just done, are usually politically motivated. https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/visualizations-data/yc...

Lol this is SUCH a great data set. People say "yes" to every question except "do I think climate change will affect me personally" and "I talk about it to people in my life" - two metrics that could actually translate to "care"

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by hackyhacky »

f6v wrote: post #24
xyzelement wrote: post #5

As an observation, global warming has completely disappeared as social concern in the last few years. Great that someone is still publishing research, but it seems like being a climate scientist has gone from hottest field to nobody cares.

The problem is, no amount of climate policies in the West is going to offset burning fuel in the developing counties. It’s a global phenomenon and addressing it locally is futile. That, and you don’t have the luxury of green solutions when energy prices were going through the roof.

> addressing it locally is futile.

Imagine what could be accomplished if Americans used their global influence to affect global change on climate issues with the same zeal that they pursue manipulative trade deals.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by epistasis »

TimorousBestie wrote: post #21

A weird title. The content of the paper is summed up as “everyone felt like the climate changed after 2015, the data up to 2023 was inconclusive; we finally have enough to prove it with 95% confidence.” EDIT: The title is weird because it’s generic to the point of being unsearchable. I’m not disputing the facts of the paper.

It's one of those titles that makes perfect sense to a scientist working in the field, but which is quite inscrutable to those not working in the field. (Just like the titles of most HN submissions)

Since manuscripts are written for those working in the field, and need to be, it's one of the big challenges of science communication. In the past these articles would be in a library and mailed out to the subscribing specialists, which minimized the confusion. In the age of the internet, even our dogs can read highly specialized scientific pre-prints that haven't even been peer reviewed yet.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by swiftcoder »

leetharris wrote: post #16
ck2 wrote: post #6

Basically the oceans are way way way too hot which is melting even the most ancient ice and that can never be undone in our lifetimes (well maybe from a nuclear winter) USA is about to have another El Nino summer which will be scorching from overheating oceans But don't worry, USA is solving the problem by Biden banning cheap electric cars and Trump ending electric subsidies entirely, forcing coal plants to restart

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> India and China burn orders of magnitude more

The US accounts for significantly higher emissions than India[1], despite having only a quarter the population.

> and they aren't going to slow down

There's a pretty good case to be made that China is slowing down[2], albeit not as fast as any of us need to be.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

[2]: https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-co2-emissions-ha...

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

captainbland wrote: post #9

Today: this Tomorrow: trillions invested in new technology for simulating human torture accurately at the molecular level, requiring twice the level of all consumer electricity use on the planet. Advocates claim "all use is valid".

Is this a reference to "Torment Nexus"?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by nDRDY »

xyzelement wrote: post #5

As an observation, global warming has completely disappeared as social concern in the last few years. Great that someone is still publishing research, but it seems like being a climate scientist has gone from hottest field to nobody cares.

The messaging on "global tipping points" was over-done, and also many people are now aware that enforcing low-carbon policies is costing Western economies a huge amount of money while resulting in very little net reduction in global CO2 output.

Why care when we're already over the edge and there isn't anything we can do about it?

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