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The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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From my interactions with younger engineers, this is what "they're looking for". I think we're just used to a different format, so our expectations don't match the reality. Our instincts are different, maybe? Not sure.

No, it still sucks, it’s genAI and the author uses twitter. Younger engineers veer the heck away from stuff that “looks” of a culture but isn’t.

They've been doing this since well before genAI

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

Yeah, similar feelings here. I grew up in the BBS world in the 90s, and love a quality TUI experience, but something about this toolset just gives me the ick. I can't keep any of the naming straight; to me it all reads like "combine Chapstick with Cotton Swab inside of Matcha Latte" and my eyes instantly glaze over.

How does this company make money? Is it all just a ZIRP fever dream?

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Theory: terminal apps are closing the agent self-improvement loop because agents can use TUIs more easily than web/desktop/mobile. Anomaly, which builds OpenCode + OpenTUI), is also doing some really interesting stuff in this space with their custom renderer. And then there's Ink ( https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink ) which is what Claude Code uses. I also built Ink Web ( https://github.com/cjroth/ink-web ) to make…

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Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

I agree with you about the general vibe being off putting. I’ve been using their libraries for a while now and have to say they are pretty solid though. The terminal components work reliably, and have less UX bugs than the alternatives.

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

Bubbletea is actually pretty cool. I also agree that the website doesn't look so good.

It looks amazing. Websites and projects are allowed to have personality and use flashy colors.

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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This has led to a completely overblown design of at least their website. All these cutesy pictures of bubble tea, way too big graphical wrappers, no simple page that is labeled "screenshots", no explanation what "bubbletea" actually is, ... One would think it to be a simple task to mention somewhere that this is a TUI library, where one can see it at the first glance. But apparently not. Instead I am seeing: Your new…

We make the command line glamorous. Awesome for one man bands. Or maybe Panic. But my Finance department is never going to approve that purchase.

Ok but who cares about your finance department, and more importantly, why would your finance department care for a technology choice of the engineering teams? The fucked up thing is your finance department in this scenario, not Charm

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

+1.

Maybe it's just pattern recognition misfiring, maybe I'm too just used to workhorse software with websites that look stuck in 1999, but everything coming out of that company (Charmbracelet, Inc. according to website footer) feels like it could suddenly get monetized and enshittified next Tuesday morning.

There is also something weird about this entire aesthetics. They all got this 2020s startup vibe of smooth gradients, bisexual lighting, infantile mascots with cartoon or anime inspired styles, vaguely Asian and vaguely feminine. It feels predatory not in the Big Cat with Bloody Mouth way, but in the Cocomelon sensory videos for ages 1 to 3 way. Am I crazy or does anyone else feel similarly?

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

I've been doing more CLI tools now than ever, and sometimes it's just fun/cool to tell whatever LLM to "use gum to make this pretty" =)
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