Missing kumquats (and calamondins and mandarinquats)
A ternary plot of citrus geneology
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Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#12Seems to be missing the Etrog? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_taxonomy#Citrons Also, the "click to show search results" is cool but fails for "Arizona Citron" in obvious ways.
I couldn't find the Seville orange, or what Iranians call Narang
Nevermind, they have the "Sevillan Sour Orange" and a few other sour oranges
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#13Inheritance is astonishingly more complex than trees, e.g.
Wong et al. (2024) "A general and efficient representation of ancestral recombination graphs" https://doi.org/10.1093/genetics/iyae100
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#14Missing kumquats (and calamondins and mandarinquats)
they discuss that, they were not hybridized to the same extent. They do discuss the key lime ancestry as orthogonal, it would be cool to use a tetrahedron instead to show that.
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#15Seems to be missing the Etrog? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_taxonomy#Citrons Also, the "click to show search results" is cool but fails for "Arizona Citron" in obvious ways.
I think the etrog is not a hybrid so it would overlap with the citron
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#16Now I wish I could try all of these.
There is an annual citrus festival in Riverside, CA where many hybrids are developed.
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#17Inheritance is astonishingly more complex than trees, e.g. Wong et al. (2024) "A general and efficient representation of ancestral recombination graphs" https://doi.org/10.1093/genetics/iyae100
Interesting, going to read more!
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#18This is very cool, thank you for building it! I remember reading about the mess of citrus genealogy in John McPhee's Oranges (wonderful book).
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#19Now I wish I could try all of these.
There is an annual citrus festival in Riverside, CA where many hybrids are developed.
Yes! And every day the California Citrus State Historic Park is open for tours and tasting of various citrus varieties:
Re: A ternary plot of citrus geneology
#20During lockdown I started growing clementine from seed. One of the interesting details of this genus is polyembryonism: multiple seedlings emerging from one seed. Apparently, one of the seedlings will be a clone of the motherplant and the rest will be the product of pollination/genetic reshuffling. My clementine seeds all had 2 seedlings per seed but other attempts (with lemon I think) yielded 3 or more).
During my reading I came across a lot of contradictory info about the origin of the clementine: some papers say it’s an unknown hybrid, other clearly state it’s a mutation instead of a hybrid. So it’s interesting to read the hybrid parentage in this triangle, stated with confidence.