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The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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Theory: terminal apps are closing the agent self-improvement loop because agents can use TUIs more easily than web/desktop/mobile.

Anomaly, which builds OpenCode + OpenTUI), is also doing some really interesting stuff in this space with their custom renderer. And then there's Ink (https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink) which is what Claude Code uses. I also built Ink Web (https://github.com/cjroth/ink-web) to make Ink work in the browser.

The virality of OpenClaw and Claude Code has me wondering if terminals could actually go mainstream (eg used by non-tech users). More thoughts here: https://www.cjroth.com/blog/2026-03-05-terminals-are-cool-ag...

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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> the terminal is the most powerful way to interface with the operating system.

There's something about the UX here, how we're interfacing in an abstract way directly with the computer, now with agents. I hope we can get some interesting design study insights over the coming months and years.

I don't see a UI replacing the experience we get with TUIs. Also, UIs seem very clunky, in relation to TUIs performance.

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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post #38

Surprised huh v2 isn't included in this and there's no mention of it in the release announcement at all. Quite a few of my apps mix bubbletea/bubbles and huh in different parts of the app, and while they're typically separate and technically could coexist no problem, it would feel a bit weird. Plus huh is advertised as "can be integrated into a Bubble Tea application"; I'm not using it personally but it's surely used…

Maybe it's a generational thing, but if I proposed to my coworkers in 2003 that we should build an app(lication!) with "Go, bubble tea and huh" - I would be laughed out of the room and onto the unemployment line.

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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post #44

I love this design language to death. I know a lot of engineers prefer a no-frills, straight to the point readme (as reflected in these comments), and I get that. But I also don't want to live in a world made out of nothing but boxes. It feels a bit like visiting Fallingwater and complaining that there are no arrows pointing to the bathroom.

Not to worry, ChatGPT will be happy to oblige and make every other repo look as unique and special as this one.

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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post #38

Surprised huh v2 isn't included in this and there's no mention of it in the release announcement at all. Quite a few of my apps mix bubbletea/bubbles and huh in different parts of the app, and while they're typically separate and technically could coexist no problem, it would feel a bit weird. Plus huh is advertised as "can be integrated into a Bubble Tea application"; I'm not using it personally but it's surely used…

Maybe it's a generational thing, but if I proposed to my coworkers in 2003 that we should build an app(lication!) with "Go, bubble tea and huh" - I would be laughed out of the room and onto the unemployment line.

Would you have been laughed out of the room if you proposed to use a vcs called git?

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

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I'm so excited about this! And I expect the speed/bandwidth improvements in the new renderer to be very significant.

I spent a while hacking on my own fork of the Bubbletea renderer over the last few months in order to run a game over SSH[1]. It was a ton of work for a niche, simple game (snake) but it dropped bandwidth usage by a factor of 10. The new renderer has to be more general so it might not quite hit that for all applications, but I bet it's not that far off.

I could also see it being an even more significant gain for apps that use a lot of modern colors and styling, since escape sequences there can be very long / heavy weight.

Some of the comments here are annoyed about the website branding but FWIW I think bubbletea and lipgloss (and wish, if you want SSH stuff) are really excellent tools for building "boring" TUIs too.

[1] https://eieio.games/blog/secure-massively-multiplayer-snake/

Re: The next generations of Bubble Tea, Lip Gloss, and Bubbles are available now

#59

Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why. All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films. It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

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