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Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by smortaz »

jeromeparadis wrote: post #39
smortaz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Would love to get your feedback. Note that you can use PTVS for Django development/debugging & then push to a cloud of your choice (ie, not Azure) as well. See this link for some info: https://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/python/tutorials/...

What are the clouds of your choice other than Azure? I don't see them mentioned in the tutorial. I'm on Windows but my Python projects are on a Ubuntu VM and I push to AWS, Racksace Coud, dedicated servers, etc. My project can also interact with the shell, phantomjs, node js, Redis, etc. How can I benefit from the VS IDE for my python projects? I've seen mentions of Linux clients but not sure what they mean. thanks.…

Sorry i should have been more clear. I meant that you can take advantage of PTVS's editor/intellisense/template debugging facilities for Django, but then take further steps to push to another cloud yourself. Some folks have used PTVS this way for their MPI debugging w Linux for example. Also, Amazon has a good add-in for VS to interface with their cloud which maybe of use in your scenario: http://aws.amazon.com/visualstudio/

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by smortaz »

jeromeparadis wrote: post #39
smortaz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Would love to get your feedback. Note that you can use PTVS for Django development/debugging & then push to a cloud of your choice (ie, not Azure) as well. See this link for some info: https://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/python/tutorials/...

What are the clouds of your choice other than Azure? I don't see them mentioned in the tutorial. I'm on Windows but my Python projects are on a Ubuntu VM and I push to AWS, Racksace Coud, dedicated servers, etc. My project can also interact with the shell, phantomjs, node js, Redis, etc. How can I benefit from the VS IDE for my python projects? I've seen mentions of Linux clients but not sure what they mean. thanks.…

Forgot to answer part of your question - the Linux/MacOS Client Libraries are a set of Python bindings for the services that Azure provides. They're hosted on Github here: https://github.com/WindowsAzure/azure-sdk-for-python ; and you can see a video overview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDvqNP_Ja5s&hd=1

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by lunchbox »

smortaz wrote: post #33
lunchbox wrote: post #19

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I love PTVS, but I keep running into a problem when I debug my code. One time it'll properly highlight in my IDE where an exception (or breakpoint) occurred; the next time it won't, and I have to look in the black Python console window and inspect the stack trace . Using PTVS 1.1.50530.0 with VS2010 Ultimate.

Hmmm... have you filed a bug on this? We're generally pretty responsive (you'll be talking directly to the dev team, not msft support). If you could include a repro that'll be perfect. thx.

OK, will log a bug if I can

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by shrikant »

smortaz wrote: post #2

Hi folks, if you happen to be on Windows & enjoy Python, please check out our latest release of PTVS. It's a free/OSS plug-in for VS which supports CPython, IronPython, and the usual Edit/Debug/Profile/etc. now with Django & Client Libs for Linux & MacOS as well. Another cool feature we've added is the Parallel Stack / Watch view and Django template intellisense/debugging. Disclaimer: PTVS is built by few Python/OSS…

I'd like to check it out, but was not able find anything on the Codeplex site about this - does it work with the Express edition of Visual Studio?

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by irahul »

smortaz wrote: post #4
theboywho wrote: post #3

Why is the photo hosted at imgur ? http://i.imgur.com/tyvjN.png

You know, I don't have a good answer... I was going to host it on another page on codeplex, but my teammate insisted on something w a direct link & no misc. stuff around it. I'll use your comment & tell him "Seeee!" :).

I would have said "imgur is great" except it deletes images. Imgur is simple for the consumer, and you don't pay the bills for bandwidth usage but http://imgur.com/faq#long says if it doesn't get at least 1 view in 6 months, it can deleted.

http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1523/imgur-com-is-deleti...

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by toyg »

shrikant wrote: post #45
smortaz wrote: post #2

Hi folks, if you happen to be on Windows & enjoy Python, please check out our latest release of PTVS. It's a free/OSS plug-in for VS which supports CPython, IronPython, and the usual Edit/Debug/Profile/etc. now with Django & Client Libs for Linux & MacOS as well. Another cool feature we've added is the Parallel Stack / Watch view and Django template intellisense/debugging. Disclaimer: PTVS is built by few Python/OSS…

I'd like to check it out, but was not able find anything on the Codeplex site about this - does it work with the Express edition of Visual Studio?

It works with the free VS-Shell runtimes, so in theory it should work with Express editions, but YMMV.

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by jbevain »

Given the very sad state of the extensibility of Visual Studio (I wrote about it earlier this year http://evain.net/blog/articles/2012/02/27/visual-studio-your...), it turns out that not only are the Python Tools an excellent plugin to write Python code in VS, it's also one of the best example of how to implement support for a new language or a debugger in Visual Studio >= 2010.

Some things we do in my product would not have been possible without having access to the source of the Python Tools (which again say a lot about the sad story of extending VS).

Shameless plug, if that's still too much work for you, you can contact my company to integrate your language in VS.

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by randlet »

thronemonkey wrote: post #26
randlet wrote: post #25

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I use WingIDE's[1] professional version (which includes the editor source code) and it has the ability to highlight a section and evaluate it either in the REPL or at the current breakpoint in a debug probe. It also has decent vi and emacs keybinding support, really nice interactive debugger (including template debugging for Django) and great intellisense. It's the best Python IDE I have found, the support is great a…

Do you know if it supports ipython? I'm on the scientific computing side of the python world, so django is less important to me . . .

It does not unfortunately. You can do interactive matplotlib plotting but it doesn't behave in the same "shell + REPL" way that ipython does.

Re: Show HN: Python Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by jeromeparadis »

jeromeparadis wrote: post #39
smortaz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Would love to get your feedback. Note that you can use PTVS for Django development/debugging & then push to a cloud of your choice (ie, not Azure) as well. See this link for some info: https://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/python/tutorials/...

What are the clouds of your choice other than Azure? I don't see them mentioned in the tutorial. I'm on Windows but my Python projects are on a Ubuntu VM and I push to AWS, Racksace Coud, dedicated servers, etc. My project can also interact with the shell, phantomjs, node js, Redis, etc. How can I benefit from the VS IDE for my python projects? I've seen mentions of Linux clients but not sure what they mean. thanks.…

Thanks for the answers! Very helpful.
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