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“Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by cml123 »

h14h wrote: post #531
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

Not surprising, but it's sad to accept that the only major company building consumer-focused computing devices is Apple. My hope is that LLMs allow linux to gain market share quickly. I know personally I've had a much smoother time moving to linux now that I can delegate a lot of the annoying troubleshooting/customization to claude. Being able to say something like "I don't like the window colors make them more consi…

this is interesting because of how much it differs from my own hopes. I don't really have any personal need or want for the Linux desktop marketshare to increase. I like computers because I can program them to do something and it will do it. Ideally you have complete control over it. I've customized my desktop here and there in order to get some result, but while you care most about the _result_, for me the act of _making_ that result happen is as important if not more. I'm not looking to offload it to something else.

I don't really see the troubleshooting/customization as annoying. It's not much different than learning to program. At first you don't have any intuition for patterns or ways to solve problems, but given time, you start to identify them and know how to work on it unaided. For many distros or operating systems more broadly, it's the same thing. When in doubt, I head to the Arch wiki or more rarely the forums, then I'm good to go.

I'm not really after some integrated LLM or Copilot 365 for Linux experience when it comes to using my computer.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

boca_honey wrote: post #437
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've said this for years. The amount of money Microsoft makes from the OS apart from corporations is a rounding error. What little they do make is from preinstalled systems, and, honestly, when was the last time you knew someone that went out and bought a Windows-based computer for anything other than gaming? I don't need a quote from someone high up in the company to know they couldn't care less how upset people are…

>when was the last time you knew someone that went out and bought a Windows-based computer for anything other than gaming? I'm sorry, what? I don't know if this is because of the developer-bubble mindset on HN (or the wealth gap that comes with that), but Windows adoption on the consumer level is around 70% and close to 90% on the business level. This actually falls short from what I see anecdotically (I don't live i…

I'm sorry, but what!? Right back atcha. If you'd have bothered to have looked at the chart in link I posted, you'd have seen that market share of "consumer compute" for Windows was 26% as of 10 years ago. You're going to have to do a lot better anecdata to find a 44% resurgence over the last 10 years, especially given the dismal things that have happened to it as a platform over that time.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by jfyi »

kibwen wrote: post #220
jfyi wrote: post #139

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Is it though? Or are we simply in an environment that is heavily skewed toward "Great Person" theory narratives?

This isn't a new thing. Ancient stories like the Iliad or the Odyssey are discreetly historical records of a particular region mixed in with mythological foundations of a particular culture, but framed as the stories of Achilles ("Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.") and Odysseus ("Speak, memory, of the cunning hero, the wanderer, blown off course time…

Great person theory is hardly new either. I'm not sure the point. Really it's just "critical theory" for rich white men. I'm not convinced everyone or even a majority thinks this way innately. It's taught by people that want others to see them that way. Nothing here precludes that.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

capitainenemo wrote: post #193
samgranieri wrote: post #179

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I’m at the point to tell people (friends, neighbors, fellow parents, family, ie, not HN readers) to prolong the life of their existing computers and install what I think is the easiest windows equivalent on their computers: kubuntu. Gnome is nice and all, but the default ui, and remember defaults matter for a lot of people, is just too jarring. The people I am talking about just wanna browse the web, go on Facebook a…

My family switched to Gnome 2 a couple of decades ago. My mother quite liked it and has consistently installed it on every new computer she bought. Her only confusion lately has been with the ubuntu snap packages and how they behave between multiple accounts on the machine. These days she uses MATE which still offers that Gnome 2 layout. Awesome thing about Linux is that option to fork, so her desktop environment has…

Try Debian, versus ubuntu it’s like the windows 10 to windows 11

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

kaycey2022 wrote: post #488
miohtama wrote: post #200

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The next step is mandatory id verification for the age check on login. To protect the children.

The step after that is to sync copilot screenshots with webcam footage of the user to build a marketing database matching user’s emotional responses to on screen content.

Surely they could sell the camera stream to flock for a higher margin?

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

x0x0 wrote: post #285
izzydata wrote: post #171

Microsoft, can you please let me remove recommendations from the start menu? Not just less recommendations. I want the category to not be displayed and taking up space.

What I heard is you would like some highly relevant ads to be at the top of your start menu for your convenience every time you want to start a program. Oh, and have you heard about OneDrive?

No, they appear after a short delay. whoops I’m sure you meant to click on that application but here are some bing search results instead.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by endymion-light »

WorldMaker wrote: post #360
quadruple wrote: post #42

What community is there to house around Microsoft Copilot? Seriously, why does Microsoft Copilot need a Discord Server? What do I talk about when I join the Microsoft Copilot server? What are we doing here?

The Discord server for Midjourney is said to be one its biggest use point, the source of its largest audience, and one of its biggest sales funnels. Even as other image models have grown more powerful/capable, Discord has been suggested (or blamed, depending on perspective) for keeping Midjourney one of the most popular ones. I would not be surprised if some PM at Microsoft heard about that and made it a box to check…

isn't that literally just because the only way to use midjourney was with a weird discord bot for ages?

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by Borborygymus »

natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure

Linux.

> AI

The slop people are complaining about.

> and enterprise solutions.

Business users are totally fed up of poorly-function Co-Pilot buttons in every UI. The people who sign contracts are not the people forced to digest the cruft.

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Post by capitainenemo »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #565
capitainenemo wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My family switched to Gnome 2 a couple of decades ago. My mother quite liked it and has consistently installed it on every new computer she bought. Her only confusion lately has been with the ubuntu snap packages and how they behave between multiple accounts on the machine. These days she uses MATE which still offers that Gnome 2 layout. Awesome thing about Linux is that option to fork, so her desktop environment has…

Try Debian, versus ubuntu it’s like the windows 10 to windows 11

My mom's been installing Ubuntu on her own. I've not been involved in the process and have no remote access to the machine to even fix the snap situation.

At home, I run a mix of Devuan and Gentoo.

At work, primarily Devuan with some Ubuntu where COTS only officially supports Ubuntu or Redhat.

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