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Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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Nvidia could flip a switch and start competing with former customers. They have the talent, the models, the HW, and they know how to quickly build out DCs.

And maybe TSMC should make cellphones? If you're higher up the supply chain why go downstream into risk? It's financially irresponsible.

> If you're higher up the supply chain why go downstream into risk? It's financially irresponsible.

Well, classically, to capture more margin for yourself. In business school they call this Vertical Integration. Samsung did exactly this. AWS too.

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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They don't have the talent.

Are you suggesting Nvidia doesn't have talent in the AI industry? NVIDIA has released NVIDIA Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS) and a Frame Generation model, NVIDIA Super Resolution (VSR) being the most popular/well known models. (DLSS is outstanding technology, despite the sometimes misleading marketing). Nvidia has released countless models: Alpamayo 1 (Car navigation model) Cosmos-Reason2 (reasoning vision langua…

> Are you suggesting Nvidia doesn't have talent in the AI industry?

nVidia has an open position for system architect, orbital station AI datacenter

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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These days Nvidia has more money than it knows what to do with. They could certainly push $5b+ into each company annually and never miss it. They're tracking toward an astounding $200b in operating income (maybe over the next four quarters if the music doesn't suddenly stop).

5 billion doesn't look like much when OpenAI just raised $110b though. And how sustainable is NVDA's immense profits if this bubble actually bursts?

It did not raise $110 billion. According to their own SEC filings $35 billion of Amazon’s funding is contingent on “(i) OpenAI meeting specified milestones, and (ii) OpenAI directly or indirectly consummating an initial public offering or direct listing of equity securities in the United States”

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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Datacenter income for nVidia last quarter was something like 62B vs the gaming market of https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financia...

But so many gamers want to buy GPUs and can’t because they are sold out or won’t because they are super price inflated. Wouldn’t the gaming market be larger if the products were actually available and at their actual MSRP?

No. Enterprise customers generate vastly more revenue and profit than consumers can.

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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But so many gamers want to buy GPUs and can’t because they are sold out or won’t because they are super price inflated. Wouldn’t the gaming market be larger if the products were actually available and at their actual MSRP?

Nvidia can't sell 10x the number of GPUs they sell. As much as the supply issues are discussed, it would likely take them a long time to just double the market. They could try to become the vendor of choice for the PS6/next xbox, but that's a big strategy shift for again maybe double the market, not 10x the market. On the other hand right now the market doesn't seem to think that the >60bn of datacenter revenue is go…

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Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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Instead of pouring more money into OpenAI and Anthropic, Nvidia should invest more in expanding production capacity for the RTX 5000 series and future generations. High-end consumer GPU availability is still constrained, especially for the RTX 5090, and street prices remain elevated. Nvidia should come back to the consumer side.

Nvidia designs chips, it has no production capabilities. Most of their chips are produced by TSMC and memory come from SK Hynix.

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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That is not substantiable. AI bubble is wealthy hype like a single drop of blood can be used to validate 100 different diagnostic test. Reality is parts per million fails this along with reusable medium. Wealth latches to idiocy. Gaming and CAD market are real expectations that latch to reality. Grow the education systems and grow both. So is matrix math, such as hashing. AI has reached a state of software issue, not…

> AI has reached a state of software issue, not hardware Citation very much needed. At the very least, OpenAI seems to believe more and larger datacenters is the path to better models... and they've been right about that every time so far.

>OpenAI seems to believe more and larger datacenters is the path to better models...

Does that mean they produce better slop, or more slop faster?

Re: Jensen Huang says Nvidia is pulling back from OpenAI and Anthropic

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Instead of pouring more money into OpenAI and Anthropic, Nvidia should invest more in expanding production capacity for the RTX 5000 series and future generations. High-end consumer GPU availability is still constrained, especially for the RTX 5090, and street prices remain elevated. Nvidia should come back to the consumer side.

Their model offerings are also need some love.
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