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Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by GCUMstlyHarmls »

nozzlegear wrote: post #88
laalshaitaan wrote: post #60

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Is this comment AI generated? I don't like to accuse people of generating comments, but looking at your comment history, almost all of them fit this pattern of a single paragraph with "LLM-isms", this one included (i.e. "the X angle here is real -").

Whats the point of all that? I guess at some point you hope to amass enough "quality" accounts to sway opinion on products? It makes more direct sense on Facebook et al or Reddit, but I guess on HN you're doing the same thing.

Botting HN is probably actually more effective as the audience is smaller, probably by several magnitudes? So 20 pro-product comments in a thread is more likely to hit an investors eyeball?

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by sankalpmukim »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #105
varenc wrote: post #30

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I found that strange as well. My guess is that `npm` is just the package manager people are most likely to already have installed and doing it this way makes it easy. They might think asking people to install Cargo is too much effort. Wonder if the pattern of using npm to install non-node tools will keep gaining traction.

Most people aren't going to have npm installed though. Nobody outside of web devs uses it.

"Most people" are webdevs

Bracing for getting cancelled

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by jitl »

nikanj wrote: post #76
spinagon wrote: post #40

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What about pip? It's either installed or immediately available on many OSes

This is about eight years old. The python situation has mostly gotten worse since https://xkcd.com/1987/

python packaging / envs is solved now by uv. its not promising or used by people in the know like the last 2 trendy python package managers. i was a big time python hater since it was a pita to support as a devtools guy but now its trivial. uv just works, it won.

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by jitl »

csomar wrote: post #112
mountainriver wrote: post #53

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Doesn’t this seem excessive over just using rust’s cross platform builds?

There's no such thing as a truly "cross-platform" build. Depending on what you use, you might have to target specific combinations of OS and processor architecture. That's actually why WASM (though they went with WASI) is a better choice; especially for libraries, since anyone can drop it into their environment without worrying about compatibility.

there’s 3 os and 2 architectures minus darwin-amd64 so you just need to do 5 builds to avoid the WASM performance tax.

(freebsd runs linux binaries and the openbsd people probably want to build from source anyways)

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by ralph84 »

drewda wrote: post #110

While I prefer Google's productivity apps to the Microsoft world in this case Google is just catching up to the APIs and tooling that Microsoft has provided for a long time: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/microsoftgraph/...

Yet somehow Microsoft Copilot doesn't know how to use that tooling.

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by Fabricio20 »

spinagon wrote: post #40
anilgulecha wrote: post #36

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No package manager is. But of the ones that are installed by users, npm is probably the most popular.

What about pip? It's either installed or immediately available on many OSes

pip might be but it was historically super inconsistent (at least in my experience). Is it `pip install`? `python3 -m pip install`? maybe `pip3 install`? Yeah ubuntu did a lot of damage to pip here. npm always worked because you had to install it and it didnt have a transition phase from python2 being in the OS by default.

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by eitally »

jitl wrote: post #93
hoppp wrote: post #90

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Google will slowly win at the AI game. They got everything going, lots of free usage and they are keeping it real, unlike openAI that rides a hype train

yeah just like they’ve slowly won at cloud over AWS and Azure. oh wait

They are. I don't know why you think you're making that statement sarcastically. GCP started late and from a much smaller base, but has been growing consistently faster than both of their competitors. Moreover, AWS has recently almost completely leveled off and is losing customers, most of whom are moving to GCP because of the AI leadership/differentiation.

AWS is the IBM of clouds. You won't get fired for choosing it, but you also know you're just getting a plain vanilla set of services, too, that usually cost more than colo or on-prem. Without any meaningful first party AI investments (this goes for MSFT, too), Google is the only one stop shop.

Re: Google Workspace CLI

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Post by jitl »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #108
brunoborges wrote: post #33

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NPM as a cross platform package distribution system works really well. The install script checks the OS and Arch, and pulls the right Rust binary. Then, they get upgrade mechanism out of the box too, and an uninstall mechanism. NPM has become the de facto standard for installing any software these days, because it is present on every OS.

> NPM has become the de facto standard for installing any software these days, because it is present on every OS. That's not remotely true. If there is a standard (which I wouldn't say there is), it's either docker or curl|bash. Nobody is out there using npm to install packages except web devs, this is absolutely ridiculous on Google's part.

they offer npm for the large market of cli users who have it, and curl|bash to those who don’t. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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