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Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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post #45

Mobile devices are fantastically horrible objects, and you have to blame the deliberately hobbled, crippled nature of touch screens for many, many things that suck when (trying) to use one. My fat fingers are too stupid to learn how to type on soft keyboards, and that's the end of it. Even when turning on pointer position feedback that shows the path and position of the cursor, to reveal what the interface THINKS I'm…

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Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#102
post #98

Related to bookmarks... I no longer use Firefox and have long since switched to Chrome, but in doing so my bookmarks have become effectively useless. What I mean by this is, in Firefox, one of the greatest (and probably underused) features was the ability to tag individual bookmarks instead of simply pushing them into a single folder. This meant that, when I wanted to revisit a bookmark later on, I simply had to star…

Tagging is indeed the best way to organize bookmarks and it's what we use to organize bookmarks in noteplz.com . Another useful thing i've found useful is keeping the page referer along with the bookmark (one of the few good things i can think of about referers) .

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#103
post #98

Related to bookmarks... I no longer use Firefox and have long since switched to Chrome, but in doing so my bookmarks have become effectively useless. What I mean by this is, in Firefox, one of the greatest (and probably underused) features was the ability to tag individual bookmarks instead of simply pushing them into a single folder. This meant that, when I wanted to revisit a bookmark later on, I simply had to star…

Welcome to the club. Many of us have realized by now that none of the browsers are following any standards when it comes to bookmarks. The tagging is the exclusive Firefox feature and we were simply hijacked by it over the years. You moved to Chrome after using Firefox for many yeas (so did I) and you realize that your Firefox tags are not welcome at Chrome.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#105
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "months" has to be an exaggeration, I don't think I've had ff last months without require being restarted. I could imagine weeks, but not months. (FF 16/linux)

Restarting doesn't get rid of tabs.

not for me, they all restore perfectly, there's likely a setting you're not using to restore tabs.

4 seconds of googling shows this for Chrome

you should try the voice search, it's amzingly fast and got everything right that I asked it. I said "directions to cafe prage san francisco" and as soon as I finished the results came up and it talked back saying what it had found - traffic adjusted driving time and map. I tried "oracle stock price" and that showed and spoke the result back to me.

lots of cool features. its >50mb so you need to be on wifi to download it (for some reason)

http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&...

and this for firefox

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/restore-previous-session

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#106
post #35

I personally find there are different levels of bookmarks. Some are "I'll read that later" bookmarks, some are "I'm going to be using this a lot" bookmarks, and some are just "well this might be useful one day" bookmarks. Personally I'd like a ranking system where I can rank these bookmarks in terms of priority. I could then set up filters to automatically prune some bookmarks after x days or after I've already visit…

I'm the same as you. I've accumulated years worth of bookmarks which I dread organizing, but at least I can search for their titles. My current solution consists of: * Readability - things I intend to read soon. Works across browsers and devices, and the simplified text-only view is a boon. * Bookmarks - I try to roughly categorize by folders, but mostly use tags. I'm not sure why no other browser other than FF lets…

Funny, my use is very similar to yours, just with a different software stack. I use Firefox bookmarks for frequently visited pages, Pocket for read-it-later articles and Pinboard for (tagged) future reference.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's curious. I'm quite used to hearing conversations where people have wildly different performance experiences with Chrome and Firefox. But people with 100s of tabs almost universally say that Firefox handles them ok and Chrome fails miserably. As for Firefox improvements -- FF7 (September 2011) fixed some big memory problems in the browser, and FF15 (August 2012) prevented a very common kind of leak caused by ad…

What is Chrome's bottleneck with hundreds of tabs? The resource load from hundreds of processes? IPC overhead for the browser process to managing the content processes?

close some fucking tabs sometime

christ

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#108

I personally find there are different levels of bookmarks. Some are "I'll read that later" bookmarks, some are "I'm going to be using this a lot" bookmarks, and some are just "well this might be useful one day" bookmarks. Personally I'd like a ranking system where I can rank these bookmarks in terms of priority. I could then set up filters to automatically prune some bookmarks after x days or after I've already visit…

What's strange is that the study reveals exactly these different use cases for bookmarks, but doesn't propose a real solution. I currently have well over 100 things in Pocket, and even more in Pinboard, and many different tab groups open in the background (FF). My problem is not how to store things, but how to get myself to follow through instead of seeking out more content.

Maybe if I created a randomly updating HN-like interface for my 'bookmarks' I would be more likely to follow through. Or a daily email to myself of 5 random links.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#109
post #99
post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

I actually love Chrome for this use case, as I can use the Task Manager view to kill all my tabs while leaving them "open". I additionally made a one-line change to my local build of Chromium so that when I open it all tabs come up "crashed", so I can now manage a nearly infinite number of tabs with almost no memory usage at all.

What was that one-line change? That'd be useful for me as well.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

#110
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually love Chrome for this use case, as I can use the Task Manager view to kill all my tabs while leaving them "open". I additionally made a one-line change to my local build of Chromium so that when I open it all tabs come up "crashed", so I can now manage a nearly infinite number of tabs with almost no memory usage at all.

What was that one-line change? That'd be useful for me as well.

    diff --git a/chrome/browser/sessions/session_restore.cc b/chrome/browser/sessions/session_restore.cc
    index 40ebe27..0cb39b8 100644
    --- a/chrome/browser/sessions/session_restore.cc
    +++ b/chrome/browser/sessions/session_restore.cc
    @@ -995,6 +995,7 @@ class SessionRestoreImpl : public content::NotificationObserver {
               GrantPermissionsForFile(id, *file, read_file_permissions);
         }
     
    +    schedule_load = false;
         if (schedule_load)
           tab_loader_->ScheduleLoad(&web_contents->GetController());
         return web_contents;
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