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Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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post #62

The only flock cameras indicated in my town are the canonical Home Depot arrangement. I'm pretty sure it's part of their standard operating procedures at this point. The effect these have had on the in store experience (at my location) is the primary thing that has me interested in limited deployments. Shopping at HD prior to the ALPRs was a horrible time. I think they finally caught the guy who was stealing the litt…

Wondering what the intersection is with Home Depot cameras and ICE?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#162
It's clearly true there have been abuses as a result of this technology. And its also clearly true criminals have been caught as a result of the cams, that otherwise would not have been.

If you believe the costs of the the abuses, and potential abuses, exceed the benefit, then at least be honest about the trade-off, because there are real benefits.

Personally, I believe the costs, on net, are worth the benefits. And in so far as the costs can be further reduced, without loosing most benefits, then great. This is not right or wrong. It's just a question of values, and how you weight the costs vs benefits.

Don't down-vote this all at once.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#163

It's clearly true there have been abuses as a result of this technology. And its also clearly true criminals have been caught as a result of the cams, that otherwise would not have been. If you believe the costs of the the abuses, and potential abuses, exceed the benefit, then at least be honest about the trade-off, because there are real benefits. Personally, I believe the costs, on net, are worth the benefits. And…

My question to you is: how are you assessing the costs? Do you know how many crimes have been stopped as a result of these cams? Do you know the extent to which our privacy is being lost and our data is being used against us or others?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#164

One way to possibly get the cameras taken down: insist on requesting the data as it's public data and should be publicly accessible. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/wa-cit...

It only gets them deactivated until the state legislature "fixes" the "loophole".

Does that mean it shouldn't be done?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#165
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. People run reds in front of cops and they do nothing. I was tboned and the person that hit me had no license or anything to identify and ran a red and still was let go without anything.

What led to this?

This is what happens to your country when you don't really care about public services (in many cases they're looked down upon, just look at teachers, federal workers but also police). There's difficulty recruiting and retaining police officers in the US (i'd imagine anywhere but especially the US) because it's not seen as a good job. I'm not a huge believer in IQ but intelligent and capable people just can't be convinced to go into this line of work unless they truly care about their community (very rare). Just way more fun to go to the big city and work in an office with an AC.

I'm sure there's a million other reasons why people don't want this job, but this reflects in how harsh you can be on (new) agents.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's literally exactly what civil disobedience is.

No that's uncivil disobedience. The difference is inaction vs action.

Civil means nonviolent. There were laws against blacks sitting at certain counters in some areas of the US in the past. Those laws were broken without violence. That's civil disobedience.

Please at least try to understand what you're talking about; you're embarrassing yourself.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#170
I'm gonna get downvoted for this.

But I'd like cameras in my neighborhood. Sure, there's a security risk but there's also a risk of not catching criminals due to lack of evidence. Tons of crimes aren't prosecuted due to the lack of evidence.

A security risk doesn't impact average people, and it can be handled more easily.

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