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Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by akdev1l »

rk06 wrote: post #335
lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

all apple needs, to kill surface laptops entirely, is to enable windows to run on m series laptops without issues. I don't know why the downvotes, maybe someone can chime in if there is more to surface laptop? because i am using one laptop, and much prefer to use windows on M4 macbook pro instead.

wine already runs on Mac so really they would just need something like dxvk to have a package similar to proton

To be honest if Apple wanted to they could work with valve to make gaming on Mac a reality

To some degree it should already be possible with wine + dxvk + moltenvk

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by GeekyBear »

lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

Microsoft's build quality is largely equivalent, but the press has already noticed that the value proposition at Microsoft is now lacking.

> Apple's newest MacBook is an impressive play for affordability, right as the Surface line is looking expensive and out of touch.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3077961

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by zitterbewegung »

NietTim wrote: post #331
lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

This is not primarily competing with the surface line of laptops, this is mostly competing with chromebooks which dominate schools. That's a completely different segment of devices.

At this point the Macbook Neo is in competition with Chromebooks, Microsoft and the third party market for older Macbook Airs with M1s

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by badc0ffee »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #489

I find it really fascinating that this is priced identically to an iPhone 17e. Speaks to it essentially being a big iPad with a keyboard attached running macOS.

In Canada they don't seem to be priced the same - Neo starts at $899, and 17e at $799.

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by akdev1l »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #427
lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

>Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world Thinkpads. Or in general any business laptop, like HP Elitebook or Dell Presicion. But they are not cheap at all haha If you want performace get a desktop!

A decked out Mac mini is actually a beast for its size

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by jazzyjackson »

monegator wrote: post #498

I'd be glad to try one (either blue or piss colored). If it really comes at 600€. Though it would already be 100€ too much unless it gets liberated to run linux at some point. My fear is that it's going to be made useless in no time with software updates, or that it has some important limitation (like i can't use XCode command line tools)... But i wanted to replace my old mid 2012 for a couple of years and i decided…

The M2 air supports asahi Linux and used ones can be had for 600ish

The Neo runs on the same chip as iPad so fat chance unlocking the bootloader

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

Someone wrote: post #479
lateforwork wrote: post #306

This is a major challenge to Microsoft. A 13-inch Surface Laptop costs $899 [1], that's 50% more than an equivalent MacBook! And even at that higher price the Surface Laptop doesn't have a good screen: it uses 150% scaling (as opposed to the ideal 200%) which means you have subtle display artifacts. Other than Microsoft nobody even makes decent laptops in the Windows world. I am typing this on an Lenovo Yoga, it has…

> The best laptop is now significantly cheaper than the horrible ones. Possibly, but I would wait for reviews to make that call. The hardware is slower than other MacBooks; memory may be slower, too, and other hardware may be slightly worse in quality.

“hardware is slower” single core is significantly faster than the M2 Ultra chip. And when you're browsing the web, single core is all that matters.

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by forrestthewoods »

The hoops Apple will jump through to not let me install/dual-boot macOS on my iPad Pro.

It’s all the same damn hardware. Just let me install an OS that isn’t purposefully gimped!!

Re: MacBook Neo

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Post by thatwasunusual »

compounding_it wrote: post #275
reacharavindh wrote: post #250

If this makes people develop stuff under the assumption that the user only has 8 GB of memory, I am happy for where we are going :-)

Forget people, id like to see Apple themselves optimise the macOS experience for 8gb Ram. The M1 Air base should ideally be useful until the MacBook Neo loses macOS updates. So 6+6 years at least. But we all know M1 Air will lose updates in a couple of years maybe because Apple doesn't want us to keep using old hardware even if it's similar to new hardware.

> Apple doesn't want us to keep using old hardware even if it's similar to new hardware.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but is this a fact, i.e. has it been proved?

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