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Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by theevocater » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 6:42 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #21

engtech wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on you for renaming the project... but why would you chose that name in the first place? I'm not trying to start a flame war -- just curious because I've been in a similar situation. After university I named the first C unit test framework I wrote the oh-so-obvious C*NT. At the time I thought I was being funny, but over a decade later and I can see that this is a symptom of the underlying misogyny/"boy's club" t…

Would you consider a project called DICK or COCK to be misogynistic too? Without wanting to start an argument, your example doesn't strike me as misogynistic; it doesn't seem like it would be any more offputting to women than to men, if we're assuming the same baseline personality.

Whether or not its misogynistic is a distraction from the fact that its childish.

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by joelg87 » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 6:44 PM UTC

rolandal wrote: post #49

I'm curious to see how Joel, Leo, and Tom perceive this open-source version effecting their business. I'm a long time buffer user, and paying customer, and think that this would actually help the sales pipeline for them. The MVP of Circular is so narrow (given only 1 dev), that it would make me wish for more, and with the attribution Julien gave to Buffer hopefully users will click-through. Since the Buffer guys have…

Thanks for the kind words Roland, awesome to see you here.

Yep, you're right - I think what Julien is doing is really great. I've been in touch with him via email too, been great to talk a little and looking forward to more conversation :-)

I think it's great that there are multiple offerings out there, to raise awareness of this kind of service is really key right now as we gain traction and as more and more people find that something like Buffer can be super useful for them. We've had quite a few competitors come and go along our journey so far, and I expect to see more and more. I think it's only a good thing.

Good thinking on ways to work together, I think Julien and I will chat for sure :-)

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by joelg87 » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 6:47 PM UTC

dangravell wrote: post #43

I used to use Timely, does this replace that service? Seems to... My main concern is that if this is free as in both speech _and_ beer, how will the service be supported? I don't want to allow access to YATC and see it die.

Hey. I definitely encourage you to try Circular. If you want to try Buffer too, then if it helps then I'm happy to let you know we're funded and profitable, 7 in the team. Let me know if you have any other questions! :-)

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by alpb » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 6:50 PM UTC

Buffer does the stuff very good actually, I use its free tier and I couldn't even approach to its limit, personally. But having alternatives is always very good and apparently you spent really good time on this project. I'd love to hear a blog address where we can follow your stories about your development of Circular.

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by engtech » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 6:54 PM UTC

rglover wrote: post #35

engtech wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on you for renaming the project... but why would you chose that name in the first place? I'm not trying to start a flame war -- just curious because I've been in a similar situation. After university I named the first C unit test framework I wrote the oh-so-obvious C*NT. At the time I thought I was being funny, but over a decade later and I can see that this is a symptom of the underlying misogyny/"boy's club" t…

This wasn't an oversight, just a bit of failed translation. Julien mentioned it in the original launch thread, but Tampon in French loosely translates to "buffer." See what happened there? Give the fella a break.

Thanks for the clarification -- I'd never heard of circular/tampon before so I wasn't aware of what had happened, hence my question.

I'm even one of those people who never figured out what buffer app was for despite all their posts on HN.

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by aymeric » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 7:13 PM UTC

I am divided. As a developer, I think open source is great. As an entrepreneur, having more people release stuff for free devalues my work on the long term. I would say a good middle ground would be that open source should only be used to provide tools to developers, not to release production features.

A few years back, people would buy a software $25, now they complain when your app is over $1 (thanks Apple).

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by thomseddon » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 7:15 PM UTC

Just to hop in on the discussion, I have just launched a similar (hosted!) service similar to circular(/tampon)/buffer/hootsuite except it's completely white label and self brandable: http://sashboard.com

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 7:17 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #21

engtech wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on you for renaming the project... but why would you chose that name in the first place? I'm not trying to start a flame war -- just curious because I've been in a similar situation. After university I named the first C unit test framework I wrote the oh-so-obvious C*NT. At the time I thought I was being funny, but over a decade later and I can see that this is a symptom of the underlying misogyny/"boy's club" t…

Would you consider a project called DICK or COCK to be misogynistic too? Without wanting to start an argument, your example doesn't strike me as misogynistic; it doesn't seem like it would be any more offputting to women than to men, if we're assuming the same baseline personality.

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Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by reinhardt » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 7:18 PM UTC

aaronblohowiak wrote: post #37

grimboy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second wave feminists decided that that word in particular was bad no matter the context.

And third-wave feminism flirted with post-structuralism..

You guys should stop poking fun at feminism and check your privilege m'kay?

Re: Show HN: Circular, an open source clone of Buffer

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Post by mnicole » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 7:18 PM UTC

grimboy wrote: post #25

lmm wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you consider a project called DICK or COCK to be misogynistic too? Without wanting to start an argument, your example doesn't strike me as misogynistic; it doesn't seem like it would be any more offputting to women than to men, if we're assuming the same baseline personality.

Second wave feminists decided that that word in particular was bad no matter the context.

It isn't a "bad" word. It's about the implications of using a tool in the workplace that is automatically going to garner giggles and stares at the reactions of the female employees. Imagine having to explain your workflow to your executives or train female social media employees on how to use something with a name like that. It's just awkward and unnecessary.