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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by stephenr »

trial3 wrote: post #659
stephenr wrote: post #632

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> Nano-texture is worth the upgrade if you are on a macbookpro whatever M and dont have it. Oh really, it's universally better? > For those of us with astigmatism it's really night and day experience. Oh. So it's better for someone else with a specific eye condition, who is practically guaranteed to never use a MacBook that I buy?

lmao you're coming in pretty hot, stephen. it is actually possible that from time to time you may encounter comments written on the internet that do not perfectly reference every aspect of your lived experience

It's also possible to make a comment on the internet that clearly identifies the context of what you're saying, rather than implying something is a universal truth.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by ladyanita22 »

midtake wrote: post #703
satoqz wrote: post #96

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This. I have been a big (and loud) fan of M-series hardware from the beginning, but if Apple is going to keep making their software worse, I will find myself lingering on older generations that run Asahi Linux or going back to a traditional x86_64 laptop instead of buying into new generations.

I don't trust Asahi after the whole Asahi Lina thing. Lina being an alt in denial of her other identity is a big red flag. If Hector was honest about it I would feel differently. The deception behind the Lina identity is very weird to me.

Oh, who cares about that?

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by EagnaIonat »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #203

$5000 laptop you have to pay to add a power adapter… gratuitous penny pinching from Tim Cook's Apple. It's one of those things, yes if I'm spending that much on a laptop I can afford to spend $80 on the adapter too, but does it feel good as a customer to do that or are you souring the experience of buying from you just to earn a few more dollars.

They aren't charging extra, you just got the initial price without the adapter.

The only differences that are more expensive EU vs US is the AppleCare+ and taxes.

US looks like you pay yearly for AppleCare+ while EU it has to be for a fixed number of years.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by piokoch »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #729
butILoveLife wrote: post #447

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>Time to first token measured with an 8K-token prompt using a 14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization Oh dear 14B and 4-bit quant? There are going to be a lot of embarrassed programmers who need to explain to their engineering managers why their Macbook can't reasonably run LLMs like they said it could. (This already happened at my fortune 20 company lol)

I don’t really get why people are smack talking this, are there other laptops available that can do better?

Nope, but other producers does not claim that their hardware "can run AI".

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by ok_dad »

manofmanysmiles wrote: post #114

I love the following section of their copy: > Even More Value for Upgraders > The new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max mark a major leap for pro users. There’s never been a better time for customers to upgrade from a previous generation of MacBook Pro with Apple silicon or an Intel-based Mac. I read as "Whoops we made the M1 Macbook Pro too good, please upgrade!" I think I will get another 2-5 years…

Yep I’m still using an M2 MacBook Air with 8gb of ram to do development. Thank goodness the company I work for doesn’t use a bunch heavy infrastructure. I expect to use this for several more years at least.

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Post by fragmede »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #221
seanalltogether wrote: post #137

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Same, in fact the only reason right now that I would upgrade my m1 pro is if they threaten to change the design by getting rid of the hdmi or sd card slot, or doing something stupid like when they added the touch bar. I was locked into my old intel pro for so long because of all the bad hardware choices they were making.

You may get your wish with all the rumors of a touch screen on the M6 MBPs.

how about a cell modem in one

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by JMiao »

brucehoult wrote: post #676
samat wrote: post #516

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I downgraded today for the first time in my life. Sequoia is crazy fast in my MacBook Air m2 16gb Not upgrading any of my Macs ever again. I was a fanboy looking for every new update like a present, for 13 years, not anymore. It took one Tahoe burn all that trust. Never upgrading major OS versions on hardware from Apple again.

Sequoia is 15. I still have my M1 Mini on Sonoma 14.5. It keeps nagging me to update to Tahoe. Oh ... I just checked, and I could update to 14.8.4. Maybe that's safe.

Why not Sequoia?

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Post by AdamN »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #267
re-thc wrote: post #258

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> 90%+ of the engineers at Big Tech and the technorati startups The US 1s? Is that why we have Deepseek and then other non-US open source LLMs catching up rapidly? World view please. The developer community is not US only.

You’ll see a lot of MacBooks in Beijing’s zhongguangcun where all the tech companies are, but they also have a lot of students there as well, so who knows. You need to go out to the suburbs where Lenovo has offices to stop seeing them. I know Apple is common in Western Europe having lived there for two years (but that was 20 years ago, I lived in China for 9 years after that). It wouldn’t surprise me if the deepseek…

I would also expect that the Deepseek devs are using MacBook. If not they may be using Linux - Windows is possible of course but not likely imho. I have no knowledge about that area though so would be interesting to here any primary sources or anecdotes.

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Post by neor »

OccamsMirror wrote: post #689
compounding_it wrote: post #336

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yes pretty much this. make useless features use up resources and make basic scrolling slow. the Liquid Glass for example probably is not so great when it comes to resources. Probably works better with latest metal and hardware blocks on the GPU in M5 as opposed to using GPU cores and unified memory on 8gb M1 making latest macOS work not so great. I have the M1 8gb air and it is really slow on Tahoe. It was snappy jus…

I'm so tempted to do this. But having to wipe my MBP is currently too much friction for me. Liquid Glass is really killing my love for Apple products. I'll probably get a Framework and an Android phone for my next device purchases. They really need to just admit it was a bad move and make like Sonic.

For my work device I've disabled Liquid glass completely. The accessibility options to reduce transparency and increase contrast improve the readability of the system a lot.

Booting a 15 year old Mac a while ago had me surprised how clean the interface actually is. The Dock/Desktop look a lot better in the old versions, and the age is mostly showing in apps like Finder which do look a bit dated.

I really hope someone at Apple is going to make the call to drastically reduce the Liquid Glass design and start complying with their own UX guidelines again.

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