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TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Reminder, Larry “citizens shouldn’t get any privacy” Ellison now owns tik tok. If you’re still using it or have friends and family using it you should stop immediately. It WILL eventually be used against you if this regime gets its way.

https://digitaldemocracynow.org/2025/03/22/the-troubling-imp...

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Monitoring children's DMs is the responsibility of the parents, not megacorps. If a parent wants to install a keylogger or screen recorder on their child's PC, that's their decision. But Google should not be able to. Neither should... literally anyone else except maybe an employer on a work-provided device.

Parents shouldn't give their child access to a device that allows DMs. That said, these platforms are making it impossible for parents to monitor anything. They're literally designed to profit off addiction in children.

Why? Plenty of children benefit from talking to other people. Some children need careful monitoring, and some children shouldn't be allowed to use DMs, but it's not universal and should be up to the parents.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

#35
"The situation is made more complex because TikTok has long faced accusations that ties to the Chinese state may put users' data at risk."

And yet, it's even more complex than that, since it's now owned by cronies of the current US President. I've never had a TikTok account, but conceptually I was mostly pretty okay with being spied-upon by China. I'm never going to China.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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post #35

"The situation is made more complex because TikTok has long faced accusations that ties to the Chinese state may put users' data at risk." And yet, it's even more complex than that, since it's now owned by cronies of the current US President. I've never had a TikTok account, but conceptually I was mostly pretty okay with being spied-upon by China. I'm never going to China.

> "I'm never going to China."

Voluntarily.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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post #22

Brilliant. They're repackaging the argument governments have long made about E2EE being dangerous to children.

Children are just too effect of a tool when building a surveillance state. We should have banned children from owning open computers a long time ago just like we do with Alcohol, Driving licenses, etc.

Instead children would own special devices that are locked down and tagged with a "underage" flag when interacting with online services, while adults could continue as normal. We already heavily restrict the freedom of children so there is plenty of precedent for this. Optionally we could provide service points to unlock devices when they turn 18 to avoid E-waste as well.

This way it's the point of sale where you provide your ID, instead of attaching it to the hardware itself and sending it out to every single SaaS on the planet to do what they wish.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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post #20

This might be off-topic but on-topic about child safety... but I'm surprised people are being myopic about age verification. Age verification should be banned, but people ignore that nowadays most widely used online services already ask for your age and act accordingly: twitter, youtube, google in general, any online marketplace. They already got so much data on their users and optimize their algorithms for those gro…

Monitoring children's DMs is the responsibility of the parents, not megacorps. If a parent wants to install a keylogger or screen recorder on their child's PC, that's their decision. But Google should not be able to. Neither should... literally anyone else except maybe an employer on a work-provided device.

> Monitoring children's DMs is the responsibility of the parents, not megacorps

Absolutely. But what responsibilities do megacorps have? Right now, everyone seems to avoid this question, and make do with megacorps not being responsible. This means: "we'll allow megacorps to be as they are and not take any responsibilities for the effects they cause to society". Instead of them taking responsibilities, we're collecting everyone's data and calling it a day by banning children from social networks... and this is because there are many interests involved (not related to child development and safety).

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