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MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by carefree-bob »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #542

I bought an M4 and don't think I can justify upgrading so soon. Certainly has some great improvements.

I bought an M1 Max with 64G RAM a long time ago, and am perfectly happy with it. I thought about getting a refurbed M4 Max when the M5 Max comes out, and decided my next computer will be a Dell Rugged, just because I want a Rugged laptop for auto diag stuff, and I thought I could kill two birds with one stone and get something with an NVIDIA card for learning CUDA. I've been using the Rugged basically nonstop while the M1 Max gathers dust. I think I may be done with Apple laptops now, a rugged laptop running linux is so nice. I love the keyboard, I love the upgradability, the OS is snappy, and I can use so much nice software. I added a 4TB SSD and now have 7 auto diag virtual machines with volvo, VAG, BMW software, and keep the host linux to myself. I have not had so much fun with a computer in a very long time. Both battery bays are full and my mac mini takes care of blue bubbles and is a home server for inventory management and backups. If for some reason I miss the Apple Experience, I can always RDP into the mini. Keeping a mini under the desk at home and a rugged laptop outside the home is my new sweet spot.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by tgrowazay »

> M5 Pro supports up to 64GB of unified memory with up to 307GB/s of memory bandwidth, while M5 Max supports up to 128GB of unified memory with up to 614GB/s of memory bandwidth

Which roughly translates to 30B Q8 size LLM at 10t/s for the M5 Pro and 60B Q8 size LLM at 10t/s for the M5 Max

For reference, RTX 3090 24GB has a memory bandwidth of approx. 936.2 GB/s, DGX Spark 128GB features a unified memory bandwidth of up to 273 GB/s

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by abiraja »

mixtureoftakes wrote: post #349
abiraja wrote: post #234

I just bought a M5 Macbook Pro 2 weeks ago. Thinking of returning it and getting a M5 Pro with the same configuration but only $200 more. How should I compare M5 vs M5 Pro?

You'll get slightly more performance and ever so slightly less battery life. I'd do it

Thanks for the advice! Gonna do it.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by bombcar »

emilbratt wrote: post #546
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #542

I bought an M4 and don't think I can justify upgrading so soon. Certainly has some great improvements.

Still rocking M1 air, still a great machine and Im still happy. :-)

M1 Pro Max has held up surprisingly well, and I’m finding justifying the M5 Max over the M5 Pro quite hard to do.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

emilbratt wrote: post #546
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #542

I bought an M4 and don't think I can justify upgrading so soon. Certainly has some great improvements.

Still rocking M1 air, still a great machine and Im still happy. :-)

This is what I upgraded from. Adored it - but wanted the 128gb.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by knicholes »

butILoveLife wrote: post #447
jbellis wrote: post #298

I chased down what the "4x faster at AI tasks" was measuring: > Testing conducted by Apple in January 2026 using preproduction 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M5, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 4TB SSD, and production 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD. Time to first token measured with an 8K-to…

>Time to first token measured with an 8K-token prompt using a 14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization Oh dear 14B and 4-bit quant? There are going to be a lot of embarrassed programmers who need to explain to their engineering managers why their Macbook can't reasonably run LLMs like they said it could. (This already happened at my fortune 20 company lol)

I wonder if Apple has foresight into locally running LLMs becoming sufficiently useful.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by windowsrookie »

swyx wrote: post #367
bob1029 wrote: post #244

I feel like Apple pulled an Instant Pot with the M1 MacBook Pro. I still haven't had a single situation where I felt like spending more money would improve my experience. The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter.

> The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter. this is my exact opposite experience. my M3 Max from 2 years ago now has <2hrs battery life at best. wondering if any experts here can help me figure out what is going on? what should i be expecting?

Either your battery was defective or something is using all your battery. Even my 2018 Intel MacBook still lasts 3+ hours on a charge.

Apple will replace the battery for $249 if you choose to. https://support.apple.com/mac-laptops/repair?services=servic...

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by jonplackett »

throwforfeds wrote: post #248
virgildotcodes wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may get your wish with all the rumors of a touch screen on the M6 MBPs.

Love that they didn't learn anything from the touchbar.

I wish they’d come back with physical keys, with tiny changeable displays on each one. Customisation, but touch feel without looking.
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