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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by LunaSea »

Greed wrote: post #444
jazzyjackson wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s what a small business might have paid for an onprem web server a couple of decades ago before clouds caught on. I figure if a legal or medical practice saw value in LLMs it wouldn’t be a big deal to shove 50k into a closet

You would still have to do some pretty outstanding volume before that makes sense over choosing the "Enterprise" plan from OpenAI or Anthropic if data retention is the motivation. Assuming, of course, that your legal team signs off on their assurance not to train on or store your data with said Enterprise plans.

At least with the server you know what you are buying.

With Anthropic you're paying for "more tokens than the free plan" which has no meaning

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by brailsafe »

I don't see it mentioned much, but the most exciting thing to me is that they're shipping their own WiFi chip in it, which leads me to be hopeful that they'll eventually get around to shipping a cell modem so I don't have to tether to my phone constantly. Still no new colours unfortunately. I think those are the two things that would/will be exciting in the future. Give me a green 5g+ capable MBP and I'll be happy. I'm so deeply bored of the drab grey and darker grey versions; we can have tattoos at work now, give me a different colour laptop for christ's sake

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by user3939382 »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #268
user3939382 wrote: post #135

And your native CLI tools will continue to be from 2011 with 0 attention paid to the dev experience until it’s Swift, and we’ll continue to lock you out of running programs from other human beings we didn’t approve without a 6 step ritual in the OS. Oh and all apps will continue to constantly phone home i.e. pay for the machine so Google Adobe and Microsoft can run updaters and telemetry on it all day.

Or don’t use Google, Adobe or Microsoft software if that bothers you? And how is that Apple’s fault?

Right, actually instead of having first class tools and systems that respect us we should all go live in a hut in the forest “if it bothers us”. Apple is right there next to them abusing our machines and makes 0 effort to protect users from this.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by 0x457 »

ivankra wrote: post #79
Tangokat wrote: post #5

"Scaling up performance from M5 and offering the same breakthrough GPU architecture with a Neural Accelerator in each core, M5 Pro and M5 Max deliver up to 4x faster LLM prompt processing than M4 Pro and M4 Max, and up to 8x AI image generation than M1 Pro and M1 Max." Are they doubling down on local LLMs then? I still think Apple has a huge opportunity in privacy first LLMs but so far I'm not seeing much execution.…

But memory bandwidth (bottleneck for LLM inference) is only marginally improved, 614 GB/s vs 546 GB/s for M4/M5 Max - where is this 4x improvement coming from? I think I'll pass on upgrading.

4x is on Time To First Token it's on the graph.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by rajma »

bob1029 wrote: post #244

I feel like Apple pulled an Instant Pot with the M1 MacBook Pro. I still haven't had a single situation where I felt like spending more money would improve my experience. The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter.

M1 pro MacBook pro here as well. Just today I was thinking I have no need to upgrade until M7 and by then maybe even MacBook Air would do. Especially since I will have my home server (dgx spark) available for anything serious anyway. So excited for the Mac studio configs though. M5 ultra 1TB would be a huge leap for serious home server builders.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by matsemann »

oybng wrote: post #495

Imagine these with a functioning keyboard, ports, replaceable battery and a good operating system.

Yeah, I'm always envy of the Mac's power together with long battery times. But so tired of their software and dongles.

My current work laptop (Lenovo) is quite a beast as well when plugged in, but I can literally see the battery percentage tick down while unplugged, but colleagues with their Macs can go all day.

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