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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by aurareturn »

pcurve wrote: post #246
SirMaster wrote: post #169

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It's not $200 across the board. M4 MacBook Pro and M5 MacBook Pro started at $1599 with 512GB SSD. Now it starts at $1699, a $100 bump but comes with a 1TB SSD. Previously it would have cost $1799 for the 1T SSD, so it's a $100 bump on base price but you are also getting 1TB SDD for $100 less than before.

To clarify, I meant, model with Pro chip, not just Macbook Pro name. For example, up until MacBookPro M2, MacBookPro M2 came with M2 Pro chip. However, starting with M3, Apple lowered the MacBookPro MSRP to $1599, but its base configuration was downgraded to M3 chip from M3 Pro. To get the M3 Pro, you had to pay $1999. There's substantial performance between the two. Same with M4. To get the M4 Pro chip, you had to p…

With how much more expensive SSDs and RAM are recently, I’d say this is a great deal.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

kylec wrote: post #227
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #203

$5000 laptop you have to pay to add a power adapter… gratuitous penny pinching from Tim Cook's Apple. It's one of those things, yes if I'm spending that much on a laptop I can afford to spend $80 on the adapter too, but does it feel good as a customer to do that or are you souring the experience of buying from you just to earn a few more dollars.

I'm assuming you're in the EU or UK, Apple is required by law to not include a power adapter: https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/10/15/eu-gets-what-it-a... In the US they provide one in the box free of charge.

Does the law say they have to charge for it.

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Post by nozzlegear »

wincy wrote: post #223
detritus wrote: post #212

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Don't these integrated ARM-based SoCs make much better use of RAM as opposed to old Intel-based boards? That's my understanding, anyway.

My wife’s 8GB MacBook Air crashed yesterday with Firefox and Find My open and nothing else because of running out of RAM, so, sort of, but they’re not magic. (Find My was using 3GB of memory!)

So Firefox was using 5gb? There's your problem.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by petrbela »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #260
napo wrote: post #122

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I was considering it but got cold feet when I've been told that you could damage it when cleaning it. When I open/close my laptop I leave a ton of finger prints. I'm not too good with delicate hardware stuff.

Why are you touching the screen when you open/close your laptop??? Do you close your car doors with the window?

My screen gets fingerprints from the keyboard, maybe that's what he meant.

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Post by blueTiger33 »

Tangokat wrote: post #5

"Scaling up performance from M5 and offering the same breakthrough GPU architecture with a Neural Accelerator in each core, M5 Pro and M5 Max deliver up to 4x faster LLM prompt processing than M4 Pro and M4 Max, and up to 8x AI image generation than M1 Pro and M1 Max." Are they doubling down on local LLMs then? I still think Apple has a huge opportunity in privacy first LLMs but so far I'm not seeing much execution.…

have you seen that github repo where they unlock the true power of NE?

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Post by jbellis »

I chased down what the "4x faster at AI tasks" was measuring:

> Testing conducted by Apple in January 2026 using preproduction 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M5, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 4TB SSD, and production 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD. Time to first token measured with an 8K-token prompt using a 14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization, and LM Studio 0.4.1 (Build 1). Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Air.

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Post by dylan604 »

lm28469 wrote: post #282
hrmtst93837 wrote: post #274

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All I'm saying is that the comparison doesn't make sense. The 5090 is faster on a small subset of tasks if attached to a computer which ends up being 3x the price of a m5 machine that fit the same model or the same price as a machine that fits models 5x bigger

So you're saying that buying 2 Corollas for the cost of 1 Ferrari engine would be better? Even though the Ferrari engine is much more powerful, it's useless without the rest of the car.
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