The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes
Just yesterday, my colleague's mac Time Machine couldn't recover backup and they had to reinstall everything. But I think this predates Tahoe.
MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max
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#182You have to pay separately for the charger now. £99, what a bargain.
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#183The performance numbers are impressive, but I do not get the on-board AI spin. What is it used for?
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#184Whoah, both the Pro and Max CPUs feature 18 cores. This hasn't happened since M1 Pro/Max. This is a surprise. Also, the mix of cores have changed drastically. - 6 "Super cores" - 12 "Performance cores" I'm guessing these are just renamed performance and efficiency cores from previous generations. This is a massive change from the M4 Max: - 12 performance cores - 4 efficiency cores This seems like a downgrade (in core…
So they renamed performance to mean efficiency and are now using super in place of performance?
> The industry-leading super core was first introduced as performance cores in M5, which also adopts the super core name for all M5-based products
But new "performance" is claimed to be new design (= not just overclocked efficiency core from M5?):
> M5 Pro and M5 Max also introduce an all-new performance core that is optimized to deliver greater power-efficient, multithreaded performance for pro workloads.
quotes from https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/apple-debuts-m5-pro-a...
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#185Honest question. Is it possible to install an earlier version of macOS on these machines? Liquid glass looks so.. unprofessional to my eyes. And I hear it's also unstable.
It's the first time I've ever been so repulsed by a design that I actively avoid it just... out of sheer preference.
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#186I typed “RAM” to search for it and boy they hammer home how lucky I am to be getting 1TB SSD standard, but no mention of RAM anywhere on this page. Anyway, the MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of RAM. It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. Interestingly, 36-128GB models are showing as “currently unavailable” on the store page, and you can’t even place an order for them right now? But for anyone curious, it’s quoting $5099 fo…
> It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. No change from the previous models then, 16GB->32GB was already $400. They're cutting into their previously enormous margins to keep the prices stable, rather than hiking the prices to maintain their margins.
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#187"Scaling up performance from M5 and offering the same breakthrough GPU architecture with a Neural Accelerator in each core, M5 Pro and M5 Max deliver up to 4x faster LLM prompt processing than M4 Pro and M4 Max, and up to 8x AI image generation than M1 Pro and M1 Max." Are they doubling down on local LLMs then? I still think Apple has a huge opportunity in privacy first LLMs but so far I'm not seeing much execution.…
Apple absolutely has a massive opportunity here because they used a shared memory architecture. So as most people in or adjacent to the AI space know, NVidia gatekeeps their best GPUs with the most memory by making them eye-wateringly expensive. It's a form of market segmentation. So consumer GPUs top out at 16GB (5090 currently) while the best AI GPUs (H200?) is 141GB (I just had to search)? I think the previou sgen…
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#188The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes
The next macOS will be touch screen centric with elements getting bigger when you're close to touching them, rumors say. That being said, I run Tahoe and it works perfectly fine to me, I am not sure what issues people have with it. Sure, some corner radii aren't exactly the same but I honestly couldn't give less of a shit as long as it runs the programs I need.
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#189128gb of memory, it's a nice change for Apple not to lag in that department for once, wonder what such a machine will cost though.
Checking Apple's store, I can't find a cheaper configuration than $5100 for the M5 + 128GiB version. Here in Europe, including 21% VAT, that's €6.124,00 ($7.094,35 equivalent). Because of pricing strategies and such, the 128GiB version comes with a 2TiB SSD at minimum, and also requires the M5 Max (not Pro) at its highest configuration. Not sure if this is new, but it should be noted that these laptops don't come wit…
70W USB-C Power Adapter (included with M5 Pro with 16-core GPU)
96W USB-C Power Adapter (included with M5 Pro with 20-core GPU, configurable with M5 Pro with 16-core GPU)
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#190Interesting that they're showing VFX/CG software (Autodesk MAYA and Foundry Nuke) so prominently - obviously people using "Pro" machines are the target audience for this, but both of those apps (any many others in the industry) use Qt for the interface, rather than being totally platform-native.
I think I read somewhere long time ago that Capture One is also using Qt for GUI, though cannot find this anymore, so probably not true.