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MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by arianvanp »

carlmr wrote: post #25
nsbk wrote: post #7

The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes

I've upgraded to Tahoe at 26.2, zero complaints from my side. Haven't had any runaway memory leaks or similar that were reported.

Closing Tabs in Safari till takes more than a second though. And if you hold Cmd-W to close all of them it just completely locks up and crashes. Still not fixed since the release of Safari 26.

Literally unusable

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by jeroenhd »

whizzter wrote: post #6

128gb of memory, it's a nice change for Apple not to lag in that department for once, wonder what such a machine will cost though.

Checking Apple's store, I can't find a cheaper configuration than $5100 for the M5 + 128GiB version.

Here in Europe, including 21% VAT, that's €6.124,00 ($7.094,35 equivalent).

Because of pricing strategies and such, the 128GiB version comes with a 2TiB SSD at minimum, and also requires the M5 Max (not Pro) at its highest configuration.

Not sure if this is new, but it should be noted that these laptops don't come with a charger any more.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by testfrequency »

carlosjobim wrote: post #36
testfrequency wrote: post #15

I have a fairly maxed out M2 Ultra (24 cores, 192GB RAM), and still cannot get this machine to choke on anything. I have not once felt the need to upgrade in years, and that’s with doing pretty demanding 3D and LLM work.

You might have confused Hacker News with your e-mail inbox again. This is an Apple press release, directed to everybody in the world who might be interested in a new computer or their first computer.

What’s with the attitude? My machine is aging like a fine wine, I’m acknowledging how resilient their custom silicon is despite the world demanding more and more compute.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by aurareturn »

testfrequency wrote: post #15

I have a fairly maxed out M2 Ultra (24 cores, 192GB RAM), and still cannot get this machine to choke on anything. I have not once felt the need to upgrade in years, and that’s with doing pretty demanding 3D and LLM work.

   and that’s with doing pretty demanding 3D and LLM work.
It definitely chokes with larger models that can fit the 192GB of RAM. Prompt processing is a big bottleneck before M5.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by butILoveLife »

Tangokat wrote: post #5

"Scaling up performance from M5 and offering the same breakthrough GPU architecture with a Neural Accelerator in each core, M5 Pro and M5 Max deliver up to 4x faster LLM prompt processing than M4 Pro and M4 Max, and up to 8x AI image generation than M1 Pro and M1 Max." Are they doubling down on local LLMs then? I still think Apple has a huge opportunity in privacy first LLMs but so far I'm not seeing much execution.…

I think its just marketing, and the marketing is working. Look how many people bought Minis and ended up just paying for API calls anyway. (Saw it IRL 2x, see it on reddit openclaw daily)

I don't mind it, I open Apple stock. But I'm def not buying into their rebranding of integrated GPU under the guise of Unified Memory.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by testfrequency »

Sharlin wrote: post #33
testfrequency wrote: post #15

I have a fairly maxed out M2 Ultra (24 cores, 192GB RAM), and still cannot get this machine to choke on anything. I have not once felt the need to upgrade in years, and that’s with doing pretty demanding 3D and LLM work.

AI video generation can fairly easily choke anything that's not NVIDIA's flagship model. Even the latest local image gen models are so large that they can be frustratingly slow with non-optimal hardware even if they fit in the VRAM. IIRC when I had an M2, it was about 4x slower at running the venerable Stable Diffusion (and SDXL) than my meager RTX 3060.

I do not do anything with AI Video, but I imagine running this locally would be a hog on a Mac - especially if not optimised for Metal.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by ezfe »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #28
wincy wrote: post #12

I typed “RAM” to search for it and boy they hammer home how lucky I am to be getting 1TB SSD standard, but no mention of RAM anywhere on this page. Anyway, the MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of RAM. It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. Interestingly, 36-128GB models are showing as “currently unavailable” on the store page, and you can’t even place an order for them right now? But for anyone curious, it’s quoting $5099 fo…

Apple's RAM price bumps were already insane, now they'll get worse.

They’re literally not changing

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by ajdude »

Detrytus wrote: post #11
whizzter wrote: post #6

128gb of memory, it's a nice change for Apple not to lag in that department for once, wonder what such a machine will cost though.

128gb was there for a while. I am kind of disappointed they do not have 256gb option.

I was really hoping to see 512gb but I guess they don't want it to cut into the sales of the Studio.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by prodigycorp »

testfrequency wrote: post #15

I have a fairly maxed out M2 Ultra (24 cores, 192GB RAM), and still cannot get this machine to choke on anything. I have not once felt the need to upgrade in years, and that’s with doing pretty demanding 3D and LLM work.

If there’s anything this past three years has taught me, it’s that modern cpus can performantly do every task except for streaming text over the internet.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by lxgr »

edvinasbartkus wrote: post #27
wincy wrote: post #12

I typed “RAM” to search for it and boy they hammer home how lucky I am to be getting 1TB SSD standard, but no mention of RAM anywhere on this page. Anyway, the MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of RAM. It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. Interestingly, 36-128GB models are showing as “currently unavailable” on the store page, and you can’t even place an order for them right now? But for anyone curious, it’s quoting $5099 fo…

on Silicon Mac's it's never called RAM, it "unified memory"

I'm honestly just glad they don't brand this as "1016 MB of unified memory". Swap and ramdisks are a thing, after all...
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