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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by niam »

AznHisoka wrote: post #4

I’m looking at this from a 3rd party of view (definitely not claiming the .net “deserves” to rank higher) 1) the .net version has a couple of very high authority links, namely from theregister and thenewstack (both of which have had lots of engagement). I highly doubt it would have ranked without those links. 2) its only been a week. Give Google time to understand which pages should rank higher. 3) Google is biased t…

If it saves anyone else the effort: I went to doublecheck the claim that those articles cited the wrong page, and it seems you're correct on The Register, but archive.org's earliest copies of the other two articles don't seem to reference the impostor site. They refer instead to the GitHub.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260301133636/https://www.there... https://web.archive.org/web/20260211162657/https://venturebe... https://web.archive.org/web/20260220201539/https://thenewsta...

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by bob1029 »

Losing the SEO battle is a lot like losing money on the stock market. The system you are fighting is incredibly efficient and will never in a trillion years give a single shit about your specific concerns. You can hire lawyers and spend time complaining about it all day on social media. But you'll rarely get a drop of blood out of this stone. The best you can do is to step back, reevaluate your understanding of the market, and adjust your strategy.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

Duckduckgo actually shows nanoclaw.net as the first result and the github page as second.

Another point but DDG's AI feature actually references Nanoclaw.net as a source.

Damn I booted up Orion (Kagi) and even Kagi shows nanoclaw.net as the third result after the github page with qwibitai and another github page with your (previous?) github username ie gavrielc which when clicked on also results to the same github page.

There is an interesting find page in kagi which references the website but it still shows nanoclaw.net page earlier and the nanoclaw.dev interesting find shows the .dev domain barely that in first time I didn't even notice it.

I expected it better from DDG/Kagi to be honest. I also tried brave and it had the same issue. Brave even is its own independent index and even that struggles with.

Let's hope that this can quickly get patched though. Also a good reminder to people to prefer opening up github links than websites as I must admit that even as a tech-savvy person I could've fallen for nanoclaw.net link as well given its second in like all search engines.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by dangus »

bell-cot wrote: post #22
dangus wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is playing the wrong game. They should have filed a trademark for the name and start sending legal letters to the copycat. This is why open source projects like Firefox hold trademarks near and dear.

Last that I paid attention, filing a trademark was a 4-figure (US$) move, and defending it internationally could easily be 5-figures.

$250 for a US trademark. Just fill out some forms.

I would think a US trademark plus a nasty cease and desist letter would deter most. But maybe I’m naive.

Either that or just accept that someone else has a scam site. Report it to anyone you can report it to, put a message in your software stating that it shouldn’t have ads or payments and convey the official website.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

dirk94018 wrote: post #19

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Extremely offtopic but I accidentally pasted the link linuxtoaster.com. (with the dot) and I thought it would lead to my search engine (DDG) or something but then the website opened.

Then I tried opening up google.com. and this works too. I didn't know that websites resolve when you add another additional dot after TLD. This was a really fun coincidence type thing so I wanted to share it with you.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by lucasluitjes »

I've been annoyed with Google search quality lately and was wondering how the others fared on this specific issue. Turns out, mostly not much better.

Bing, DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia, Brave all had the github repo and nanoclaw.net (the fake homepage) in the first or second place. Marginalia had fascinating results about biology but only tangentially related Nanoclaw results, not the github repo or either the fake or real homepage.

Mojeek was the exception, sort of. It had some random news sites up top, but the github repo in 2nd place and nanoclaw.dev (the real homepage) in the 4th place. The fake nanoclaw.net did not show.

Kagi is the only one I couldn't try because apparently I used up my free credits a year back. Can anyone see how they compare?

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by AznHisoka »

carlosjobim wrote: post #36
azangru wrote: post #5

> So I built a real website. That was two weeks ago. Is Google supposed to have drastic updates to its index over 2 weeks?

It usually takes one or two days for them to start ranking new pages. They're fast!

Not these days in my experience. Maybe 5-10 years ago. I imagine Google is so indundated with so much spam, and AI slop they are being more discrimantory on what to crawl and index
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