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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

parl_match wrote: post #216
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208

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I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

> I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection That's a bug, not a feature. You don't need to be able to do every task all the time. In fact, it's nice to be able to separate that aspect.

Yes I can just print out directions on Mapquest before I leave home, tell people to page me and I will call them back from the nearest pay phone, carry around my Walkman and my Polaroid camera with me.

Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier?

What next? The old Slashdot meme “I haven’t watched TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”

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Post by layer8 »

hedora wrote: post #200
layer8 wrote: post #161

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It was 3-5%, if I remember the numbers correctly. There are rumors that the Air didn’t sell better.

Also, the mini had worse cameras than the larger screens. Camera quality is the second most important thing to me (after not needing finger enhancement surgery to hold the phone). So, they designed it to fail, and it still was 3-5% of sales vs. ones that actually got good spec bumps every year. (If you’re upgrading the phone every 12 months, why buy the one with cameras a few years behind the curve?) Anyway, I like m…

You are misremembering. There was no issue with the cameras on the mini, unless you expected a Pro mini for some reason.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by gerdesj »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208
mattnewton wrote: post #152

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If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

Surely your laptop has a mic on it and probably a camera. It also has blueteeth, wifi and stuff. Your phone has much the same and can act as a proxy to whatever is missing on your laptop and vice versa. Obviously, getting your laptop to fit under or within your "lap" is a bit of an ask!

Things like KDE Connect provide a direct bridge and a bit of imagination does the rest.

If your laptop isn't cutting the mustard then ditch it ...

... Oh your phone has a tiny screen and a shit mic and speakers, unless you stick it in your ear?

Horses for courses.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by layer8 »

miki123211 wrote: post #212
layer8 wrote: post #153

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The 17e weighs roughly the same at a smaller size, and the mini weighs significantly less. Not to mention the first SE, compared to which even the mini is heavy. Yes the Air is lightweight compared to the Pro, but that’s a low bar. The other thing with the Air is that you can’t really use it one-handed, which is what most people who like small phones are after, besides pockability.

The first SE was the best form factor I've ever owned. Incredibly small. Incredibly light. Pretty thin, even in a case. Had a headphone jack, Lightning and Touch ID. The only thing I like about the new iPhone designs is the action button. Having an automation which automatically turns silent mode off or on based on whether I'm home or not is pretty cool. You can't do that with a physical switch.

Agreed about the SE. I’m still depressed anytime I take it in hand that we don’t have something like it anymore.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by mattnewton »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208
mattnewton wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

Is this really a driving factor for people? If I anticipate tasks that I can't wait to get back to a good work environment to do, I'll bring my laptop and tether on my phone. It's a fantastically more productive setup than trying to ssh in via a phone keyboard or even write a long email. 1 inch extra on the phone screen diagonal won't move the needle there for me.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by wlesieutre »

sbinnee wrote: post #177
wlesieutre wrote: post #90

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Finally moved on from my 12 mini, but I still have it sitting in my office and when I pick it up I think "wow this feels like a phone from the future." Wish they made a new mini instead of the Air. A friend bought one of those, and frankly I just don't get it. The screen is too big to use it one-handed, and thickness is really the only one of the three dimension of the phone that I don't care about how small it is (w…

I don't get Air either. My guess is that Air is just a stepping stone for a foldable iphone.

I think that's it exactly. Hopefully we're not looking forward to "phone that's too big, and unfolds to be even more too big."

I can see a large unfolded phone being desirable if it had a stylus and I could use it like a small notebook, but just as a "watch Netflix bigger for $2000" device, no.

Especially if it has the worst camera of all of the phone models like the Air does.

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Post by Anechoic »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #128
r0fl wrote: post #112

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It always surprises me that the mini was ~1% of sales and yet the pro mini comments get so many upvotes

The release schedule was crap, as well as the 12 mini being an objectively bad phone. Spring 2020, they released the iPhone SE 2020, 4 years after the previous iPhone SE. This satiated a lot of the demand for people holding out for a smaller phone. Then came the surprise with 12 mini in September of 2020, except the battery life and performance sucked, garnering bad reviews. Then, finally in September 2021, they rele…

Spring 2020, they released the iPhone SE 2020, 4 years after the previous iPhone SE. This satiated a lot of the demand for people holding out for a smaller phone.

Count me in this group. I wound up buying the 13 mini right before it was going to be discontinued because I knew that would be the last small phone they would produce and I'm keeping it until it dies (or I can't get a battery for it).

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by sentientslug »

alpaca128 wrote: post #106
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

I have large hands but the 13 Mini is roughly the maximum I can use one-handed without doing the weird finger balancing act to shift the phone around. I get why most people like large phones - media consumption - but not everyone is into that. I don't even mind large phones if they're done right. My favorite phone of all time is the BB Passport which you have to use two-handed, but it was actually designed around tha…

Sorry but if that’s the case you definitely don’t have large hands. If you did you’d be able to use the Pro Max one handed and reach everything except the top left corner by swiveling your thumb (Reachability enables you to reach top left corner)
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