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It was 3-5%, if I remember the numbers correctly. There are rumors that the Air didn’t sell better.

Also, the mini had worse cameras than the larger screens. Camera quality is the second most important thing to me (after not needing finger enhancement surgery to hold the phone). So, they designed it to fail, and it still was 3-5% of sales vs. ones that actually got good spec bumps every year. (If you’re upgrading the phone every 12 months, why buy the one with cameras a few years behind the curve?) Anyway, I like m…

The Minis had the exact same cameras as the non-Minis. The Pros had the only camera improvements. In my experience all were worse than the contemporary Pixels though.

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I have found the iPhone Air much easier to hold than the iPhone 13 Pro it replaced because of how light it is, even though the iPhone Air has a bigger screen.

The 17e weighs roughly the same at a smaller size, and the mini weighs significantly less. Not to mention the first SE, compared to which even the mini is heavy. Yes the Air is lightweight compared to the Pro, but that’s a low bar. The other thing with the Air is that you can’t really use it one-handed, which is what most people who like small phones are after, besides pockability.

The first SE was the best form factor I've ever owned.

Incredibly small. Incredibly light. Pretty thin, even in a case. Had a headphone jack, Lightning and Touch ID.

The only thing I like about the new iPhone designs is the action button. Having an automation which automatically turns silent mode off or on based on whether I'm home or not is pretty cool. You can't do that with a physical switch.

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my wife upgraded from a 13 mini to an Air and she loves it. She thought she hated the larger size of new phones, but after holding the Air in her hand she realized the weight and thickness was the issue for her! It’s a tough call though because the Air has a lot of pros and cons! My wife never takes nature photography or macro photography, so she was OK with the 1 camera compromise. If you truly want a shorter phone,…

for me it's the comfort/ability to put the thing in my pocket.

Market the thicclight pocketable without foldline "babysize" iPhone at the expense of ridiculing the fingertip unreachable "neanderthalsize" phablet.

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Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

i send them an iphone mini request every once in a while through the feedback form hoping it will make a little bit of difference: https://www.apple.com/feedback/ still holding on to iphone 13 mini hoping they bring back the perfect size. also trying very hard not to accidentally fat finger a ios 26 update.

You need a passcode to update. There's no way to fat-finger it.

Besides, you can always delete the update (if already downloaded) and turn automatic updates off.

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If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

> I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection

That's a bug, not a feature. You don't need to be able to do every task all the time. In fact, it's nice to be able to separate that aspect.

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

We made fun of phablets, only for them to become the default.

well we have galaxy fold tablet-as-phone, so... maybe not all is lost?

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Considering that no major phone or carrier has embraced that model why would you expect it to suddenly appear here?

Someone told me that this company "Thinks different".

Recently?

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If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

The things that require more than a few taps to do aren't things that need to be done at a moment's notice. Those things can wait until I'm at my laptop.

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I don’t think anyone should make fun of you for it but I’m in the opposite boat. I’m so glad that they make the pro max variants because most smartphones are so small that it hurts my fingers to bend them in the unnaturally inward way it requires to hold and interact with them.

Boban Marjanovic posts on HN? Would never have guessed.

Great reference. It's a shame most people seeing this comment won't get it.
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