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Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by hightrix »

lacunary wrote: post #214
hightrix wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'd like to agree with you, and do in some cases, there are many cases where this just isn't a feasible approach. For example, a peer coworker has a pair of these. I just don't interact with her while she is wearing them. If my boss were to get a pair there is no way I can justify slapping them off his face.

does your workplace allow recording coworkers without their permission?

In the office? No. But at lunch or outside of the office is not controlled by work place policy.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by http-teapot »

diacritical wrote: post #82

I'm against surveillance in general and I see many people being against these glasses, yet not caring at all about surveillance cameras. Flock in the USA is a bit of an outlier in that it got some people riled up, but where I live in Europe there are private cameras looking out of at least half of the buildings, maybe more. So if you're walking down the street for 15 minutes, you'd be caught by tens or hundreds of ca…

I think there is a wide gap between public surveillance and private surveillance.

Smart glasses record in private settings and the biggest point of contention is that they "stealth" record. If someone recorded you with their phone, you'd immediately notice whereas it's hardly noticeable with smart glasses. Worse, people at Facebook are able to visualize scenes from people's home unbeknownst to them.

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Post by noah_buddy »

WD-42 wrote: post #215
hightrix wrote: post #174

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Are there any less obviously aggressive tactics we can use? Wear something that is blinding to the cameras, or something else to obfuscate?

Take out your phone, hold it up, and record them back. Get others to do it too for extra comical effect. Honestly I’d love to hear from someone who actually owns one of these things how doing this is any different than using the glasses.

This seems like the most obvious, legal, and direct way to stigmatize use of these glasses. Put a phone up to their face and say “I might be recording you.”

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Post by loeg »

showerst wrote: post #178

How does this not fall afoul of states with two party consent laws around recording conversations? Particularly since California is one of the strictest states.

How does your phone's camera? Ultimately, it's up to users to obey laws with their recording devices.

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Post by dylan604 »

hightrix wrote: post #174
pluc wrote: post #58

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They better invest in frame designs too cause as soon as they're recognizable they're gonna get slapped off faces real quick

Are there any less obviously aggressive tactics we can use? Wear something that is blinding to the cameras, or something else to obfuscate?

I've always wanted to sew very bright IR LEDs into a hat that would blind a camera. Your face would naturally be shadowed by the bill of the hat as that's its intended purpose. The IR would hopefully make the camera want to adjust shutter speed and gain/ISO while assuming a fixed aperture lens.

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Post by jjkaczor »

groos wrote: post #30
MerrimanInd wrote: post #17

I was in engineering school back in ~2012 when Google Glass came out. One of my classmates got hold of a pair when they were still quite uncommon and wore them to an extracurricular club meeting. Within minutes someone made a comment about him wearing the "creeper" glasses and asked if he was filming. He never wore them to the club again. I just don't see a world where that doesn't happen with Meta glasses.

I have a strict policy of no Meta glasses for guests in my house. Socially, they're poison.

There is almost always an appropriate XKCD...

https://xkcd.com/1807/

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Post by dylan604 »

hightrix wrote: post #198
pluc wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slapping a pair of glasses that are recording you, processing your face, sending biometrics and images back to one of the worst privacy offenders on the planet off of the face of someone who is willingly doing all that without asking your permission is a perfectly appropriate reaction. Put your shoulder into it. I'd rather we normalize that than adversarial fashion.. but that's probably what you were looking for.

While I'd like to agree with you, and do in some cases, there are many cases where this just isn't a feasible approach. For example, a peer coworker has a pair of these. I just don't interact with her while she is wearing them. If my boss were to get a pair there is no way I can justify slapping them off his face.

I don't think you could justify slapping them off of anybody's face unless you really just like to assault people.

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Post by iJohnDoe »

FTA > "I saw a video where a man puts the glasses on the bedside table and leaves the room. Shortly afterwards his wife comes in and changes her clothes." "The workers describe videos where people’s bank cards are visible by mistake."

This is hugely concerning. We need more details. Why are the glasses recording when not being worn? Is the light on when it's recording?

Are the Meta employees able to turn on the streaming without people knowing? Are these videos only when someone says "Hey Meta..."? Are the Meta employees looking at every "Hey Meta..." video where someone asks AI a question?

These glasses are considered a luxury item and are worn by executives in office environments. They are worn by people in family situations. Someone could be a confidential or private moment and randomly ask AI a question; one of the primary purposes of the glasses. Are all of these being seen by Meta employees?

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Post by DrewADesign »

hightrix wrote: post #198
pluc wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slapping a pair of glasses that are recording you, processing your face, sending biometrics and images back to one of the worst privacy offenders on the planet off of the face of someone who is willingly doing all that without asking your permission is a perfectly appropriate reaction. Put your shoulder into it. I'd rather we normalize that than adversarial fashion.. but that's probably what you were looking for.

While I'd like to agree with you, and do in some cases, there are many cases where this just isn't a feasible approach. For example, a peer coworker has a pair of these. I just don't interact with her while she is wearing them. If my boss were to get a pair there is no way I can justify slapping them off his face.

It’s also at least simple assault, and quite possibly aggravated assault on someone that has a sophisticated camera pointed at your face that’s sending biometrics, images, and probably video back to one of the worst privacy offenders on the planet.

Feels great to say it. Would feel great to do it. Morally defensible to anyone that knows anything about privacy if the person isn’t low-vision or something. In reality, a terrifically stupid idea.

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Post by autoexec »

dataflow wrote: post #13
majestik wrote: post #8

Is anyone here actually surprised Meta is recording and reviewing their content? Vote with your dollars people.

Yes, I'm surprised at this. I would've never expected they would be doing this , and I didn't exactly have high expectations of Meta. This is incredibly invasive and not at all what people expect.

Yeah, this is something you 100% should have expected. This could not be more on brand for facebook. Even if someone told me facebook wasn't using their glasses to invade the privacy of their users I wouldn't believe them. Compromising people's privacy for profit is what facebook does. Violating the trust of their users is basically all facebook has ever done.
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