$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?
The first SE in 2016, which wasn’t very far from flagship at the time, was only $399. It was a steal.
iPhone 17e
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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.
I switched from a pixel 3 to a pixel 9 pro over a year ago, and I still miss the smaller form factor. the pixel 3 really was the perfect size for me and I am sad I can no longer get a smallish phone with a high end processor.
I still have my Pixel3. I use it without a SIM for random stuff, and miss the small form factor. It is half the thickness of a Pixel 10, my current phone!
Re: iPhone 17e
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The thing I've come to like about FaceID on my 13 mini is that I can require it for certain apps to open that don't require it - e.g. messaging as opposed to banking which generally require some kind of auth by default - which is much better security in case someone snatches it out of my hand while it's unlocked. It's pretty seamless because I'm generally looking at the device anyway, and it's much less faff than it…
I think the way the Pixel does it is strictly better across the board. The fingerprint sensor doesn't sacrifice screen space, and the platform offers face unlock as well.
I only wish Pixel retained the back fingerprint sensor. It was sooooo much better than even the current under-the-screen sensor.
Re: iPhone 17e
#175Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}
i send them an iphone mini request every once in a while through the feedback form hoping it will make a little bit of difference: https://www.apple.com/feedback/ still holding on to iphone 13 mini hoping they bring back the perfect size. also trying very hard not to accidentally fat finger a ios 26 update.
Being the crazy person that spams the feedback form isn’t supporting the argument for a new mini.
If people wanted it, you wouldn’t be faking the feedback.
Re: iPhone 17e
#176$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?
I’m pretty sure they determine the price upfront and then figure out what bells and whistles they can ship without eating into their margins. Their goal is to hit a certain average selling price across their massive user base when they upgrade their old phones. They are not going to jeopardize that by releasing an attractive cheap iPhone.
For the people who really don’t want to spend a lot, obviously the easiest option is to just buy an older iPhone or keep your phone for longer. My partner doesn’t care about having the latest tech. So first I use a phone for 3 years and then they use it for another 3 years. We essentially get 6 years of life out of it (Apple is good about releasing software updates for 6 years).
Re: iPhone 17e
#177Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}
Finally moved on from my 12 mini, but I still have it sitting in my office and when I pick it up I think "wow this feels like a phone from the future." Wish they made a new mini instead of the Air. A friend bought one of those, and frankly I just don't get it. The screen is too big to use it one-handed, and thickness is really the only one of the three dimension of the phone that I don't care about how small it is (w…
I don't get Air either. My guess is that Air is just a stepping stone for a foldable iphone.
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SE 3rd gen here as my daily driver. Small form factor and Touch ID. The perfect iPhone IMO. Not looking forward to having to settle for those comically large phones with Face ID for my next one.
I "adapted" to losing the fingerprint reader. Wow, it has a lot of unexpected downsides. I've a lot of unexpected behavior from the faceid thing. Lots of unexpected swipe-ups that drop me out of an app and put me on the home screen. Can't unlock in the dark, too close to your face, off to the side, in your pocket. Lots of "I saw your face an unlocked" that I didn't know had happened. fingerprint sensor unlocked when…
What are you talking about? It doesn’t cause swipes. It uses IR so it doesn’t need light. You don’t want it to unlock in your pocket.
These new Gemini shill-agents are not very compelling.
Re: iPhone 17e
#179Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}
It always surprises me that the mini was ~1% of sales and yet the pro mini comments get so many upvotes
Crazy people fixate. It’s why you get people talking about how 4o was the best AI model ever and crying for it to be brought back. (It had no internal thinking process and would believe you are the messiah without question)
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Funnily, the large display is the most important thing for me. I find my efficiency directly proportional to display size (which holds for laptops too). If a 30 second task can be done in just 20 on a device with a larger display, that's absolutely worth it for me. Also larger device tends to imply longer battery life too.
If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.
My preferred conspiracy theory is that larger, brighter screens hold attention better, so everyone involved in the whole “user experience” (phone manufacturer, application developers, advertisers, etc.) prefers (whether they consciously realize it or not!) phones to have a larger screen. Smaller phones make fewer demands; who would want to make a device like that?