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Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by patmorgan23 »

flir wrote: post #37
MerrimanInd wrote: post #17

I was in engineering school back in ~2012 when Google Glass came out. One of my classmates got hold of a pair when they were still quite uncommon and wore them to an extracurricular club meeting. Within minutes someone made a comment about him wearing the "creeper" glasses and asked if he was filming. He never wore them to the club again. I just don't see a world where that doesn't happen with Meta glasses.

It's strange to me that that's the line society seems to have drawn in the sand. Body cam, no problem. Doorbell cam, practically universal. Body cam worn on the face? No way. I wonder why.

Body cameras aren't hidden and are worn by public officials while on duty, doorbell cameras are no more invasive than an CCTV camera a home owner might have installed on their premise.

I think the difference is that these cameras are relatively concealed, and can be used to record every interaction, even in pretty intimate/private settings. Yes you could do this with a cell phone but it would be pretty obvious your recording if you're trying to get more than just the audio of an interaction.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

lnrd wrote: post #57
yogorenapan wrote: post #9

The annoying thing is that even if you yourself don't use these glasses, as long as people around you do, you are still affected by it. We really need laws to limit always-on recording devices in places where we have an expectation of privacy.

We need laws and social norms where filming a stranger and uploading it online is considered a serious unacceptable offense regardless of the device. I find it absurd that today is completely acceptable to just film an unaware stranger and put the video online, especially since that the majority of the videos are about making fun of them or humiliate them.

The difference is public vs. private spaces. The supreme court in the US has defended the right to record videos in public. But if someone walks into my home, or my 3rd space, etc. with one of these on actively recording that should absolutely be criminalized and enforced.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by paulpauper »

NicuCalcea wrote: post #52
yonatan8070 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, the Meta glasses look much more normal, and a person who isn't actively looking for them (and especially one who is unaware of them) isn't likely to notice them.

There is a way to sus them out: https://www.404media.co/this-app-warns-you-if-someone-is-wea... Not perfect, but better than nothing I guess. I don't think I've noticed the glasses IRL anywhere, but if I start seeing them, I'm definitely installing the app and avoiding any interactions with those people.

they look like big bulky ray-bans that no one would wear unless they were starring in a 50s remake or something . easy to spot

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by function_seven »

kibwen wrote: post #94
Geonode wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a world, because when the displays are high quality and they're thinner and lighter, they're going to replace phones, and almost everyone will be wearing them.

It doesn't matter how high quality, convenient, or light they are, as long as wearing glasses isn't inherently cool, normal people aren't going to choose to wear them.

Remember those dorky Bluetooth earpieces? The ones only MBA nerds wore? They were uncool until the AirPods came along.

The tail wags the dog. Wearing glasses may become inherently cool if all the cool people in your insta feeds are wearing them.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by tombert »

ClikeX wrote: post #92
tombert wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deleted my Facebook eleven years ago. I wish I could say it was for some cool reason about privacy concerns and whatnot, but honestly it's because I was spending way too much time arguing with people I barely knew, and I figured that that's not healthy. I missed Facebook for about a day, and after that I barely even thought about it. In 2021 I bought an Oculus Quest 2, which at the time required a Facebook account…

I don't actively use Facebook and I block most(?) of the tracking, but I do have an account simply because most of the information about my area is on there. This means events, safety updates, second hand shit.

Yeah, that's fair enough. My neighborhood doesn't have that so it's fairly easy to avoid the use of Facebook.

I still spend too much arguing on HN but not as much as I was on Facebook and the audience here is generally more educated and so the arguments aren't as mind-numbing.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by cyanydeez »

tty456 wrote: post #96
ViktorRay wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of self awareness is pretty fascinating.

The individuals making these decisions are 100% aware of what they are doing. Driving for and implementing stuff like this is for profits, bonuses, and internal recognition.

Right, this is socipathy, kleptocracy and pure madness that having more money than need generates.

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by paulpauper »

yonatan8070 wrote: post #24
MerrimanInd wrote: post #17

I was in engineering school back in ~2012 when Google Glass came out. One of my classmates got hold of a pair when they were still quite uncommon and wore them to an extracurricular club meeting. Within minutes someone made a comment about him wearing the "creeper" glasses and asked if he was filming. He never wore them to the club again. I just don't see a world where that doesn't happen with Meta glasses.

Unfortunately, the Meta glasses look much more normal, and a person who isn't actively looking for them (and especially one who is unaware of them) isn't likely to notice them.

they are still very easy to spot. they are very bulky around the rims

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by AlienRobot »

MerrimanInd wrote: post #17

I was in engineering school back in ~2012 when Google Glass came out. One of my classmates got hold of a pair when they were still quite uncommon and wore them to an extracurricular club meeting. Within minutes someone made a comment about him wearing the "creeper" glasses and asked if he was filming. He never wore them to the club again. I just don't see a world where that doesn't happen with Meta glasses.

Unfortunately the frog is boiling and some people already think that "in public" means "it's okay to record people and post it on the Internet."
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