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Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by gadders » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 10:27 AM UTC

dbecker wrote: post #20

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Perhaps the Fog Creek staff is just really fit, but it seems like it would have made sense to hire some burly mover dudes to haul gasoline up stairs.

Play some Zumba music and charge for it.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by gadders » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 10:40 AM UTC

gecko wrote: post #16

ivany wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers?

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? It's flammable and slippery. Wear boots, and I suggest this is a good day to quit smoking. I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers? They are open buckets we store the cleaning supplies for the fish tank in. And…

Good on you for getting up and working to keeps things running.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by mgamer » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 10:49 AM UTC

I wonder, how technically can you move something like Trello to AWS in such short period of time? Do you think they had a plan prepared for such contingency?

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by mseebach2 » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 10:54 AM UTC

gecko wrote: post #16

ivany wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers?

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? It's flammable and slippery. Wear boots, and I suggest this is a good day to quit smoking. I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers? They are open buckets we store the cleaning supplies for the fish tank in. And…

> They are open buckets

So one guy slips and there's five gallons of diesel covering what I assume is the escape route of a NYC high rise?

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by ludovicurbain » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 11:37 AM UTC

And there goes my respect for fogCreek.

Moving to AWS because of an outage sounds very dumb to me, considering AWS itself is quite unreliable and strangely expensive (expenses that could be directed towards a better solution).

I guess they simply decided it wasn't their job, still... what a fail solution

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by alexfoo » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 12:13 PM UTC

mseebach2 wrote: post #34

gecko wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? It's flammable and slippery. Wear boots, and I suggest this is a good day to quit smoking. I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers? They are open buckets we store the cleaning supplies for the fish tank in. And…

> They are open buckets So one guy slips and there's five gallons of diesel covering what I assume is the escape route of a NYC high rise?

Indeed, can't think of it as anything other than irresponsible, bordering on downright dangerous.

Hacking software is one thing, but when that goes wrong it just leaves crashed servers, unresponsive web apps and 404/500 errors.

And, before someone mentinos it, hauling diesel up stairs to keep a hospital generator going (as mentioned in another story) is a whole different situation. Patients are a bit more important than a bunch of servers. But you'd still evacuate all non-essential staff and patients if you were doing that given that it presents a significant danger if something were to go wrong; especially with the emergency services already dealing with a huge workload.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by smiler » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 12:21 PM UTC

dagw wrote: post #24

sturadnidge wrote: post #23

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Oh, the irony. Interesting they didn't move to Azure though.

Unlike their other products trello isn't .Net based. It runs on a node.js/mongoDB/Redis (and I'm guessing Linux) stack . My understanding was that they're using Trello as a test platform for playing with and evaluating different new technologies.

You can run Linux VMs on Azure.... http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/calculator/?scenar...

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by d3ad1ysp0rk » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 12:23 PM UTC

Killah911 wrote: post #14

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Wow, that's going beyond the extra mile. I'm pretty far from NYC but if I were closer I'd give you guys a hand. In lieu of that, any possibility of a "Trello Hurricane fund" which we can donate to? Would give appreciative users like me a chance to help pitch in for a team and product which has already helped so much. Maybe it'll amount to just enough for lunch or something, but I for one would feel much better knowin…

I think there are many, many better places to donate than a profitable company who had to do a little hard labor because they didn't have a second datacenter like everyone suggests.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by bdavisx » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 12:25 PM UTC

smiler wrote: post #37

dagw wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike their other products trello isn't .Net based. It runs on a node.js/mongoDB/Redis (and I'm guessing Linux) stack . My understanding was that they're using Trello as a test platform for playing with and evaluating different new technologies.

You can run Linux VMs on Azure.... http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/calculator/?scenar...

"Let us redefine progress to mean that just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily mean we must do that thing."

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by Fjolle » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 12:44 PM UTC

mseebach2 wrote: post #34

gecko wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? It's flammable and slippery. Wear boots, and I suggest this is a good day to quit smoking. I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers? They are open buckets we store the cleaning supplies for the fish tank in. And…

> They are open buckets So one guy slips and there's five gallons of diesel covering what I assume is the escape route of a NYC high rise?

It's diesel. You'd have to heat it before you would be able to ignite it.

But yes :)