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Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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There are phones that can run "true Linux" out there, and there even are ports of Sailfish OS for some of them, but Jolla phones were never part of those and rely on Android drivers instead.

Pinephone/pro What else use main line kernel without blob ?

Nothing else, really.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

#162

I'm deeply saddened that they didn't add a 3.5mm audio/headphone jack. There was a community poll and I believe a headphone jack was the second-most requested feature after a MicroSD slot. I appreciate they have to draw a line under the feature set somewhere, however the cost of an audio jack is literal pennies and I'm quite sure the PCB designers could have squeezed it in somewhere. As someone who has no interest in…

Seems like a very poor choice to build in a headphone jack. Why not just use usb c to headphone adapter?

why does it seem like a very poor choice to you, exactly?

as for using an adapter, it's one extra thing to carry and also difficult to charge with simultaneously

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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post #28

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device. The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

Same. I rarely use the camera. I almost never take photos and when I do it's like a serial number or something that I just don't want to write down.

I do sometimes use the video for remote meetings but I don't care about picture quality for those.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Nokia N900 was really great, Jolla has some of the former team people. I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great. That Burning Memo was really a downer.

I thought the n900 did some things better than the n9. The biggest problem was lack of portrait mode. I didn't understand at the time why they didn't "just" tweak the n900 ui instead of rewriting everything.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are phones that can run "true Linux" out there, and there even are ports of Sailfish OS for some of them, but Jolla phones were never part of those and rely on Android drivers instead.

Pinephone/pro What else use main line kernel without blob ?

People also successfully use Librem 5 (which I happen to use), OnePlus 6, Pixel 3A and some others. There's not a lot to choose from, sure, but they do exist.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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It could do both, but it does say “or whatever”, not “and”.

How would you have a user-configurable switch that physically disconnects things? The mechanism for that sounds complex. I'm not a hardware person, but I imagine you'd need to route the traces for each possible component to the switch and then have like a dip switch panel to control which behaviors are controlled by the switch. Either that or a software-controlled equivalent to a dip switch panel that can only be con…

Since these things are almost certainly digital devices, just having a switch that cuts power to them could work.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are phones that can run "true Linux" out there, and there even are ports of Sailfish OS for some of them, but Jolla phones were never part of those and rely on Android drivers instead.

Seems that Jolla C2 can run "close-to" mainline kernel: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/mainline-linux-kernel-for-the...

It's a great work by a community member, but it's not something Jolla is supporting and it still has a long way to go.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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It's both; the one I mentioned is for system drivers, the one you're talking about is for running applications (which you can also do on a regular non-Halium GNU/Linux using e.g. Waydroid).

I'm sure that if you tell Jolla about a relatively modern mobile SOC with mainline linux support, they'll look into it instead of relying on libhybris.

They can rely on libhybris if they want, why should I care - I just object to calling that "a full-stack alternative", especially when alternatives do exist.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

#170

I'm deeply saddened that they didn't add a 3.5mm audio/headphone jack. There was a community poll and I believe a headphone jack was the second-most requested feature after a MicroSD slot. I appreciate they have to draw a line under the feature set somewhere, however the cost of an audio jack is literal pennies and I'm quite sure the PCB designers could have squeezed it in somewhere. As someone who has no interest in…

Seems like a very poor choice to build in a headphone jack. Why not just use usb c to headphone adapter?

What's wrong with 3.5mm headphone jack?
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