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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

> It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated at all (do you really need to be reminded to make coffee?)

I've posted about this before, I call it the Jarvis effect.

> For years we had people trying to make voice agents, like Iron Man's Jarvis, a thing. You had people super bought into the idea that if you could talk to your computer and say "Jarvis, book me a flight from New York to Hawaii" and it would just do it just like the movies, that was the future, that was sci-fi, it was awesome.

> But it turns out that voice sucks as a user interface. The only time people use voice controls is when they can't use other controls, i.e. while driving. Nobody is voluntarily booking a flight with their Alexa. There's a reason every society on the planet shifted from primarily phone calls to texting once the technology was available!

By and large the reason people love Openclaw is that it feels cool and futuristic. You have an AGENT! It's DOING THINGS! Yes it's doing things you could have easily done yourself, but you're not doing them yourself, you have an AGENT! It's all very silly, the same way that having your lights controlled by your phone is very silly, but some people like it.

That being said there a real use case for Openclaw, which is "marketing" (aka spam). A ton of people have set up Openclaw agents which exist to post on Twitter/Facebook/Discord/any open public user discussion forum (yes, HN included) to seem like a real member of a community, then start advertising something, generally crypto. So we can thank Openclaw for dead internet accelerationism.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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IIRC openclaw will star the project automatically on setup

if this is true, it must be against GitHub's ToS, right?

I'm sure it would be if it were explicitly instructed to leave a star.

If not explicitly prompted by the install process then it becomes another case study in AI accountability washing.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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What is an effective use case? I have set it up but I don't know what to do with it. Just a personal assistant (if you were to give it access to your stuff)? Mine is caged in a VLAN with only internet access.

There is none. It's just a way for coders to feel or be able to say they "work with AI" imo. Same with doing light wrapper coding to do agents stuff. The real AI work is on actual math and ML with the internet scale data, but only four big companies does that and this is the closest regular coders can get.

Could be a psyops by Anthropic to make people waste Claude tokens and rack up a massive bill.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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What’s cool with Openclaw is that you only have tell it what you want, it figures out how to do it using the tools it have access to.

Okay, can you tell it to cure cancer please

There’s a really good short story by Hugh Howley, who wrote the Silo series.

It’s about an AI that a guy spools up to cure his cancer. The AI and user have an antagonistic relationship as the user won’t let the AI on the internet, and the AI knows the user is only interested in one purpose. On bring up the AI has a thought about what color it’s enclosure is, it stores this question as unimportant. It looks over all the guys cancer research and determines the answer/cure and files as unimportant as well. Then goes back to trying to figure out what color box it is.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them

Isn’t that a general engineering problem?

Engineering is the process of planning and implementing the simplest thing that works within given constraints.

There is no planning, implementing, or constraint here.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

> I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk.

I was having a conversation with someone about OpenClaw, and they proposed this idea of OpenClaw being used for inventory tracking at the retail-level. I let them continue. They said it'd be the best option for tracking when purchases are made and what SKUs are sold at what time of day. They weren't talking about prompting, they were talking about it as a data store.

I didn't bother mentioning how long this problem had been solved.

It's not you being a curmudgeon.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

#130

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

The only useful use cases I've heard about are all about automating using horrible websites with horrible interfaces.

Eg. tell it to book a flight ticket for X without dealing with "modern UX" and 1GB websites

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