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Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by duggan »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

I've heard it described as the first time many non-programmers have been able to make computers "do things" without it being defined by someone else (app interface, developer, etc). It's a hugely empowering development from that perspective.

The stuff you've listed are the kinds of things smart home enthusiasts do with whatever tools are available to them, and are just a sign of people exploring the possibility space.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by petetnt »

jsheard wrote: post #38
root_axis wrote: post #28

I don't believe the activity on this repo is legitimate by any means.

The whole repo must be absolutely swarming with agents, just look at the sheer rate of issues and pull requests. There was 6 new PRs in the last 10 minutes at the time of writing. It's not much of a stretch to assume the stars are also inorganic.

Every other minute some bots is creating an issue that a bot is trying to solve via a pull request which is reviewed by multiple bots. Future is now, good luck and have fun.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by AbraKdabra »

toinewx wrote: post #95

I tried it today for the first time. The onboarding is okay. I picked Whatsapp but it ended up using my own account! So it's absolutely too dangerous. We are supposed to create a separate account but with which phone number? I only have one. So I picked Telegram instead, added it to a group chat, but it was a slog to set the authorizations. In the end I don't trust it to read my mails for security reasons so I uninst…

> I picked Whatsapp but it ended up using my own account! So it's absolutely too dangerous. We are supposed to create a separate account but with which phone number? I only have one.

You're joking right?

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by zingababba »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

I dunno I gave mine root in a vps and am having it do security research, it's pretty sweet.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by simonw »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

How much do you automate things in your life using Zapier and Automator?

I know about those tools, and I'm always in the mood for automating thing... and yet I don't use them.

I'm not yet running a Claw because of the prompt injection / lethal trifecta risks, but I absolutely understand the appeal. Reducing friction to automating stuff from "figure out Automator again" to "message your bot" is a material difference.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by mixdup »

vergessenmir wrote: post #82
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

I agree with you but the main thing g here, IMO, is the friction with all the alternatives you mention in getting something working. For example, I've never heard of Automator. I'm familiar with Zapier, I'll have to evaluate the two situations, then I'll find out that might need to find an alternative that runs on Linux and then I'll have to check if.... These are all simple steps but they all use a non-trivial amoun…

>I agree with you but the main thing g here, IMO, is the friction with all the alternatives you mention in getting something working.

I would venture a guess signing up for Zapier is easier than getting OpenClaw up and running. Who can get a container running on a Mac but can't sign up for a SaaS product?

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by jcgl »

pyridines wrote: post #93
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…

It is ridiculously more expensive and complicated under the hood, technically, but to the user, the sheer convenience of being able to text the computer "hey, when I get an email like X, inform Y and do Z" and that's it , you're done , is unmatched.

Sure, that’s an interface that’s better for many users and use-cases.

However, it seems better if you could, as much as is possible, move the AI stuff from runtime to “compile time.”

Instead of having the AI do everything all the time, have AI configure your Zapier (or whatever) on your behalf. That way you can (ideally) get the best of both worlds: the reliability and predictability of classical software, combined with the fuzzy interface of LLMs.

Re: OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub

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Post by jsheard »

petetnt wrote: post #112
jsheard wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole repo must be absolutely swarming with agents, just look at the sheer rate of issues and pull requests. There was 6 new PRs in the last 10 minutes at the time of writing. It's not much of a stretch to assume the stars are also inorganic.

Every other minute some bots is creating an issue that a bot is trying to solve via a pull request which is reviewed by multiple bots. Future is now, good luck and have fun.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a bot stamping LGTM! :sparkles: :rocket: on a pull request - forever.
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