They have 10,000 preorders and will be in Mobile World Congress
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anttisaarnio_just-incredible-...
Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would you have a user-configurable switch that physically disconnects things? The mechanism for that sounds complex. I'm not a hardware person, but I imagine you'd need to route the traces for each possible component to the switch and then have like a dip switch panel to control which behaviors are controlled by the switch. Either that or a software-controlled equivalent to a dip switch panel that can only be con…
Im not a hardware person either, but ex the button physically turns off the canera, and software polls for camera power and can respond
Ah I think I understand what you're suggesting now. This hypothetical switch is both a physical and software disconnect. Some features like the camera would be physically disconnected by the switch and therefore would not be user-configurable but then some other features (for example, GPS) could additionally be software disconnected at the same time.
That seems like a neat idea, but IMO I wouldn't trust the software-controlled half of it, so I'd end up only using the non-configurable physical portion of it.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
That and the russian ties, the partially closed source OS, the locked bootloader, the $50 device reset fee, the cheap underpowered chinese chipset. The company was sold more than once between investment firms. Yet it presents itself like a happy independent open source collective.
The firm with partly russian ownership went bankrupt a couple of years ago. The russian fork of the software lives on as AuroraOS in their local market but the current Jolla has no ties to russia.
> current Jolla has no ties to russia
That we know of. We live in interesting times. I wish they were more forward with how they've made it so they're protected against such interference.
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#134As far as I'm concerned, that's the only phone related announcement that matters this week. That and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645
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#135Great initiative but too big. Give me a 3.5" phone, under 100g with 2 weeks battery life, and we're in business!
Oh the joy, of being able to back it up with restic, integrate my email, text and script based workflows, and have total control of the ports and software that runs on the device. That would be amazing!
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#136I want to believe! I remember the Palm Pre and webOS, maybe this is the next big thing.
Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative
#137News release:
The world premiere of the European Phone
https://jolla.com/content/uploads/2026/03/Jolla_Phone_PressR...
Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative
#138The most important question missing from the FAQ is whether bank apps, government ID apps, etc. will work with this phone.
Everything hinges on app support. Smartphone apps have unfortunately become a hard requirement for basic day-to-day activities. Most companies offer them only for iOS and Android. If your smartphone can't run the vast majority of apps, it is basically dead on arrival. Nobody is going to buy it when they need to carry another phone anyways. The only way around this is either emulation (which Google is trying very hard…
> Smartphone apps have unfortunately become a hard requirement for basic day-to-day activities.
I've never owned a smartphone in my life and are not planning on getting one, and I'm going through life just fine.
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#139I don't understand how the physical privacy switch can also be user configurable. Wouldn't configurability mean it's a software privacy switch?
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I won't spill any beans, some stuff is easy to find online, the other I usually keep my NDAs. Nokia is still pretty much around, and owns where UNIX was born in case you missed that part of history. While we had issues, the burning memo platform was the killer for the third party developer ecosystem, just coming around the hill to move from classical Symbian into Qt/PIPS, in a UNIX culture, to be told to go Windows.
Hold on a second, let's backtrack. First you say you can "tell stories about the factory rampdowns", then when pressed to tell those stories you say you can't "because of NDAs" .... from 20 years ago on a business that's now defunct ... not sure how any of that would be enforceable today, leading me to believe you're either chasing clout for upvotes, or bs-ing. But OK, sure, let's ignore all that for now and move to…
I guess it is too hard to find stuff like,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-01-17/germany-r...
Followed by a couple of years later,
https://balkaninsight.com/2011/09/30/nokia-leaves-romania-in...
Or I might suggest reading stuff like https://yle.fi/a/3-6886400
The rest, think whatever you feel like.