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Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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if it doesn't run GNOME Mobile or KDE it isn't an alternative

How so ? It's not like this is an Android Skin.

It's running a custom Wayland compositor and UI.

Still use all the Linux stack you expect (GCC, Wayland, SystemD, Pulseaudio, RPMs, Dbus ...)

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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You're correct but even more it is a Chinese platform with a Chinese cellular stack that runs linux and on top of all that the apps software is Finnish (so "European"). It is a very misleading title, indeed. Edit: Sorry you got flagged to death. You should not post blasphemous comments ;)

Your Toyota made in Kentucky is Russian because it uses Siberian steel lol

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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I invested in this. I am quite sick of the attitudes of some of the big american phone players.

This is coming from someone who has for the longest time been invested in Apple and the Apple Ecosystem. I adored the ease of integration of everything. The amazing synergy between their designers, and their engineers. I never really minded that things came later to the Apple Ecosystem. It just worked. And it was great.

But the golden statue, the absolute pathetic DMA attitude from Apple. It started to get to me. And I am trying to now get out of that Apple Ecosystem.

I don't think it'll be smooth. I think the process will be painful as I try to work around some of the limitations. No NFC payments will be my biggest painpoint as an ADHD addled man who forgets his wallet at least 3x a week. But it's worth trying. And it's worth supporting alternatives.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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post #88
post #18

HN discussion from four months ago, including reports from people who have been using Jolla phones for some time (e.g., me): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45785840

A question I ask rather here than on that old thread: Is it possible to attach a monitor, mouse and keyboard to a jolla phone with sailfish and run a linux desktop?

Not now, and probably not in the near future.

Don't buy if this is your main goal.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually 'full stack' just means software. Here it means a true Linux phone (Sailfish OS) plus Android compatibility with sandboxing. The C2 model is made in Turkey from Asian parts. The new phone is manufactured in Asia, but the final assembly, QA, and software flashing are done in Finland. This isn't for people with a consumer mindset. It’s for people who want a Linux computer in their pocket, more privacy, and stil…

There are phones that can run "true Linux" out there, and there even are ports of Sailfish OS for some of them, but Jolla phones were never part of those and rely on Android drivers instead.

Pinephone/pro

What else use main line kernel without blob ?

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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post #90

> User configurable physical Privacy Switch - turn off your microphone, bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish The "whatever you wish" seems to indicate that this is a regular switch that can be configured to turn off certain functionality. Is that true? I was hoping for a solution that physically disconnects the microphone/cameras/etc, or at least acts at some lower level than the OS. But if it's flexible and…

It could do both, but it does say “or whatever”, not “and”.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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I invested in this. I am quite sick of the attitudes of some of the big american phone players. This is coming from someone who has for the longest time been invested in Apple and the Apple Ecosystem. I adored the ease of integration of everything. The amazing synergy between their designers, and their engineers. I never really minded that things came later to the Apple Ecosystem. It just worked. And it was great. Bu…

another adhd guy here. I haven't tried it, so i can't vouch for it to any degree of certainty, but maybe it's an option to have your main payment card in a sleeve inside your phone case? Even if it works, it's only a drop in the bucket, but maybe that's enough if you consider the lack of NFC payment a major issue. thank you for pushing for an alternative to android and apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does MS have to do with this? The Nokia factory shuffling and strikes GP was mentioning happened before MS took over. And people love to blame MS but Nokia was a sinking ship already by that point. MS was just a new captain added to steer the Titanic but the same fate was inevitable, as its home grown MeeGo/Maemo platform arrived too late and to too little adoption to stand a chance against the already establish…

Sure, but still, the driver was very intoxicated and ran over the guy, then put the car in reverse and ran over the guy again .

What does the driver matter if the guy was already dead?

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is similar to LineageOS, then it's always potentially only a matter of time until some banking and payment apps stop working due to failing security attestation pushed by a Google update. We need native apps that pass attestation out of the box for that phone/OS, not relying on hacks that may or may not work in the future. This is not good UX and it poisons the well if you push users to a new platform then th…

Beats me why banks can't use a FIDO2 enabled web site.

Banks used to give us those RSA tokens in the past for securely logging in to the web UI, but then discovered they can cut down on cost since everyone has two brands of smartphones.
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