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Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by lostlogin »

philwelch wrote: post #251
taligent wrote: post #240

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For someone saying "try again" you are awfully ignorant of News Corp and its business which is promoting a right-wing agenda worldwide. It owns News Limited, News International which are dominate right-wing newspapers/websites in Australia and UK respectively. Foxtel and BSkyB which are the PayTV equivalent in Australia and UK. Wall Street Journal and Fox News which is influential in the US. It has also its hands in…

Sure, right-wing tabloids are a market niche that News Corporation specializes in. I still don't see a consistent agenda or ideology, though. And it's hard to call News Corp's entertainment properties a "tiny sideshow" when 20th Century Fox distributes a fair chunk of Hollywood's output, when three out of the four most popular sports leagues in the world are broadcast by either Fox or Sky Sports, and when Fox is easi…

Have you read about goings on in the UK print media over the last few months? There is a consistent pattern of behavior in Murdoch's empire within the UK.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by lostlogin »

philwelch wrote: post #249
taligent wrote: post #241

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This is completely and utterly wrong. In the UK/Australia, News Limited has been heavily involved through its newspapers in dictating government policy. For example the "boat people" issue was very much promoted in Australia and in the UK there are countless examples of governments capitulating on policy at the behest of the News International papers.

I'm not denying that News Corporation is influential , I just think the primary motivation is profit rather than an actual desire to see through any kind of political agenda.

Tony Blair is the godparent of one of Mirdoch's children. Those two deserve each other with their insidious and seedy behavior. Profit may be a motivation for them both, however Murdoch is far more clever and manipulative than Blair and his agenda would hardly be hurt by having the PM as a godparent to his kid.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by lostlogin »

stcredzero wrote: post #77
eungyu wrote: post #32

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Star Story; Yuck

Actually, a Galaxy Quest style tribute/parody of Star Wars featuring Buzz Lightyear might be worthwhile.

Is that not what Jar Jar Binks was? Or did he escape from the Picar trash and appear in Star Wars.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

whatusername wrote: post #199
thejteam wrote: post #164

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I remember thinking the Thrawn trilogy was great. A few months ago I found the trilogy at a library sale and picked then up for a couple bucks for nostalgia's sake. They are awful too. And you are right, the ones by Anderson were worse.

Read a novelization of the Original Trilogy. It would suck too. To me, the Thrawn Trilogy is 'our only hope' of lucasarts getting this even close.

Actually, I'm not sure the novelizations of those would suck. It's been ~30 years since I've read a Star Wars book, granted, but AFAIK the original novel, which was credited to George Lucas himself (as if), was ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster -- who I believe was actually consulting with Lucas while the movie was in production, and had some influence on what we actually saw on screen. Foster wrote a sequel to Star Wars called Splinter of the Mind's Eye which was originally intended to be the story used for the second movie.

Having said all that, I would put fairly high odds on Disney ignoring the "Expanded Universe" stuff and actually going with whatever Lucas claims was his original idea for episodes 7-9, unless the ideas suck so much that they think they'll be box office flops.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

joezydeco wrote: post #239
taligent wrote: post #237

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Actually you're wrong on that part. Steve was the visionary. He was the one who saw Pixar as being a brand (i.e. a modern day Disney) rather than just an anonymous studio. Kids are buying and trusting the Pixar brand not the Disney brand. So to be able to set that all up (e.g. equal billing) required a vision for what the company could be. Steve was responsible for Pixar. John was responsible for Pixar's movies.

Um, didn't the real history go slightly differently? Steve Jobs invested in Pixar because of the hardware . When that didn't fly, the shorts and commercials being done by Lasseter (that paid the bills) turned into a gamble to make a full-length movie. This whole "branding" thing didn't come until the first movie was a success.

I would suggest that visionary is never having the prediction of exactly how it will turn out but having the faith that this is the right direction and the details will resolve in time

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by alanfalcon »

leeskye wrote: post #128
brudgers wrote: post #67

For those fretting the future, it will be hard for Disney to fuck up the franchise more than Lucas did with The Phantom Menace. http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episo...

Hope they chose an awesome director for episode 7: http://www.businessinsider.com/five-directors-disney-should-...

Joe Johnston is my number one choice for an Episode VII. Many people could probably capture the spirit of the original trilogy, Johnston definitely would.

For those who don't know, he was a concept and storyboard artist on the original trilogy. He also directed Captain America, which on my second viewing I realized was far more Star Wars than any movie set during WWII has any right to be.

I'd be tickled by a Brad Bird take as well.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by barrkel »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #265
joezydeco wrote: post #239

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Um, didn't the real history go slightly differently? Steve Jobs invested in Pixar because of the hardware . When that didn't fly, the shorts and commercials being done by Lasseter (that paid the bills) turned into a gamble to make a full-length movie. This whole "branding" thing didn't come until the first movie was a success.

I would suggest that visionary is never having the prediction of exactly how it will turn out but having the faith that this is the right direction and the details will resolve in time

You make "visionary" sound equivalent to "simpleton".

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by hef19898 »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #264
whatusername wrote: post #199

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Read a novelization of the Original Trilogy. It would suck too. To me, the Thrawn Trilogy is 'our only hope' of lucasarts getting this even close.

Actually, I'm not sure the novelizations of those would suck. It's been ~30 years since I've read a Star Wars book, granted, but AFAIK the original novel, which was credited to George Lucas himself (as if), was ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster -- who I believe was actually consulting with Lucas while the movie was in production, and had some influence on what we actually saw on screen. Foster wrote a sequel to Star…

Having read almost all expanded universe books up to the late ninties, yes I completely agree that the books by Timothy Zahn a by orders of magnitude the best source for episodes 7 - 9. Just afraid that they will be completely ignored. If they are using books I asume it will some crap written by Kevin J. Anderson or something based on George Lucas own ideas.

Funny thing is that Lucas Films always had the more or less final say in which stories and books were written only to ignore a lot of the back-story for episodes 1 - 3.

While I'm kind of happy to see some more Star Wars movies coming, I'm actualy scared what they will look like. Propably some of the later New Jedi Order stories (since the original actors are a littel old by now) which will suite much better to the target populace. Tjis doesn't necessarily have to be something bad, but I'm not yet convinced...

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by cubicle67 »

joezydeco wrote: post #239
taligent wrote: post #237

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Actually you're wrong on that part. Steve was the visionary. He was the one who saw Pixar as being a brand (i.e. a modern day Disney) rather than just an anonymous studio. Kids are buying and trusting the Pixar brand not the Disney brand. So to be able to set that all up (e.g. equal billing) required a vision for what the company could be. Steve was responsible for Pixar. John was responsible for Pixar's movies.

Um, didn't the real history go slightly differently? Steve Jobs invested in Pixar because of the hardware . When that didn't fly, the shorts and commercials being done by Lasseter (that paid the bills) turned into a gamble to make a full-length movie. This whole "branding" thing didn't come until the first movie was a success.

Although Jobs' negotiation with Disney wrt distribution included the concession from Disney that the Pixar logo would be of the same size and prominence as the Disney one. As far as I'm aware this was pretty much unheard of.

Re: Disney to Acquire Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Post by raverbashing »

gavanwoolery wrote: post #246
dmix wrote: post #198

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$1.1 billion in profit. But it was certainly an exception to the average film.

It probably made more than $1.1 billion in actuality, thanks to Hollywood accounting. :) http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/01054720744/hollyw...

I'd say they wouldn't be so careless as to show a profit if that value was the result of Hollywood accounting

1.1B should be about it. But on paper for the tax man it's mostly like 500Mi loss

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