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Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by crote »

oytis wrote: post #15

The most important question missing from the FAQ is whether bank apps, government ID apps, etc. will work with this phone.

Everything hinges on app support.

Smartphone apps have unfortunately become a hard requirement for basic day-to-day activities. Most companies offer them only for iOS and Android.

If your smartphone can't run the vast majority of apps, it is basically dead on arrival. Nobody is going to buy it when they need to carry another phone anyways.

The only way around this is either emulation (which Google is trying very hard to sabotage) or heavy-handed regulation forcing app developers to also support niche platforms. I don't think either option is likely to work.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by c0balt »

latexr wrote: post #28

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device. The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

You might like the Pixel 10a/9a, they have an almost flush back. For this thread, not european but instead GrapheneOS capable.

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Post by crote »

latexr wrote: post #28

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device. The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

It is enabled by smartphone reviewers excluding it from thickness measurements. I bet camera bumps would be a lot less prominent if they were clearly represented.

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Post by mpol »

poisonborz wrote: post #32

Other comments have links to more details, but in short: do not support this company. It was to be expected that a lot of corps will want to milk the term "EU sovereignty" and good willed naive people who don't look inside the packaging.

You're probably responding because of the Jolla tablet :)

To be fair, the Jolla tablet was in 2015, more than 10 years ago. Most probably, many of the people working at Jolla are not the same as then. Also, if you read carefully all the announcements and communication from Jolla, you can easily see they have learned from that crowdfunding affair. This is not the same offer, not in a long mile.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by poisonborz »

mpol wrote: post #37
poisonborz wrote: post #32

Other comments have links to more details, but in short: do not support this company. It was to be expected that a lot of corps will want to milk the term "EU sovereignty" and good willed naive people who don't look inside the packaging.

You're probably responding because of the Jolla tablet :) To be fair, the Jolla tablet was in 2015, more than 10 years ago. Most probably, many of the people working at Jolla are not the same as then. Also, if you read carefully all the announcements and communication from Jolla, you can easily see they have learned from that crowdfunding affair. This is not the same offer, not in a long mile.

That and the russian ties, the partially closed source OS, the locked bootloader, the $50 device reset fee, the cheap underpowered chinese chipset. The company was sold more than once between investment firms. Yet it presents itself like a happy independent open source collective.

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Post by dewey »

latexr wrote: post #28

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device. The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

That's fair, but in my experience for many people the camera and/or battery are the main reasons to upgrade to a new phone (Also the reason why the presentations focus on the camera for a big chunk of time usually I'd guess) so if they want to compete with that it makes sense to have a decent camera.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by jagermo »

sailorganymede wrote: post #30

I noticed that the orders hasn't bumped up that much since this was shared last time. Not really sure I see the growth here is showing a lot of demand for a European smartphone - although I could totally be wrong given the geopolitical situation.

The preorder did hit 10k, this is the normal order screen
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