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Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Yeah but the core issue is that all apps for digital services for both private and government, at least in my EU country, are only shipped for the iOS/Android duopoly. So having yet another 100th FOSS linux phone that won't run those apps is pointless until apps for these phones are shipped with feature parity, and they probably won't get shipped until these phones reach some critical mass adoption, and they won't ge…

Jolla phones can run Android apps.

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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What does full-stack mean here? Phone is fully produced in Europe? Software and online storage fully provided by European company? edit: I want this phone, I have reserved a slot in the coming batch. Just posing as an average Joe here, someone who does not host their own storage, calendar, contacts, phone tracking, remote wipe, the "free" features Google and Apple are known for on their phones.

The previous Jolla C2 phone was built by Reeder in Turkey - they don't seem to say anything about the new phone

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The most important question missing from the FAQ is whether bank apps, government ID apps, etc. will work with this phone.

There is a Wiki maintained by users. In short, it depends :) https://sailfishos.wiki/books/compatibility-list-of-android-...

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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This project has been going for years. Good to see it lives on.

IMO there's a paradox with these privacy-focused mobile solutions. Just as with the expensive flagship corporate devices, the massive price tags suggest an assumption that we are doing all our computing on mobile. That's now the case for most normies. But for anyone who really cares about their privacy (not to mention sanity), there's a better solution available: repatriate most of one's computing to a laptop. At which point all these mobile devices become unjustifiably expensive. Hence the paradox.

PS: downvoting a reasoned opinion, apart from being lazy and toxic in any community, does not constitute a rebuttal.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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> a full-stack European alternative It is absolutely not. More than misleading title. People are jumping on this "EU sovereignty" thing band-wagon and milking it for all it's worth.

> It is absolutely not. More than misleading title.

Could you elaborate? Just disagreeing without explaining why doesn’t contribute to the discussion.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Check out this thread on Sailfish OS forums regarding EU Banking apps. I was surprised on how many actually work. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/1...

If this is similar to LineageOS, then it's always potentially only a matter of time until some banking and payment apps stop working due to failing security attestation pushed by a Google update. We need native apps that pass attestation out of the box for that phone/OS, not relying on hacks that may or may not work in the future. This is not good UX and it poisons the well if you push users to a new platform then th…

Beats me why banks can't use a FIDO2 enabled web site.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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> a full-stack European alternative It is absolutely not. More than misleading title. People are jumping on this "EU sovereignty" thing band-wagon and milking it for all it's worth.

> It is absolutely not. More than misleading title. Could you elaborate? Just disagreeing without explaining why doesn’t contribute to the discussion.

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