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Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by actionfromafar »

joe_mamba wrote: post #8
Markoff wrote: post #5

huge notch and huge bottom bezel with mediocre Mediatek Dimensity 7100, all this for 650EUR with specs worse than 200EUR phones, that's like 450EUR for software, a bit high surcharge...

It's what you get when you have no phone manufacturing supply chains anymore because you shipped them all to China 20+ years ago then lost the OS wars to Apple and Google leaving you with no local phone industry. Then it's gonna cost you through the nose when you're making, what are now to your industry, niche low volume items. Remember when you could buy EU made Nokias, Siemens and Ericssons? Even the chargers were…

I think of those two, the OS wars is the much more substantial EU/US difference. It's not like Apple is making much hardware in the US, yet they wade in pools of cash.

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Post by maratc »

actionfromafar wrote: post #6
joe_mamba wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but the core issue is that all apps for digital services for both private and government, at least in my EU country, are only shipped for the iOS/Android duopoly. So having yet another 100th FOSS linux phone that won't run those apps is pointless until apps for these phones are shipped with feature parity, and they probably won't get shipped until these phones reach some critical mass adoption, and they won't ge…

Jolla phones can run Android apps.

Your point seems to be "Some Jolla phones can run some Android apps," while GP's issue is that "It's not true that all Jolla phones can run all Android apps."

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Post by pjmlp »

Nokia N900 was really great, Jolla has some of the former team people.

I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great.

That Burning Memo was really a downer.

Re: Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

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Post by pjmlp »

joe_mamba wrote: post #8
Markoff wrote: post #5

huge notch and huge bottom bezel with mediocre Mediatek Dimensity 7100, all this for 650EUR with specs worse than 200EUR phones, that's like 450EUR for software, a bit high surcharge...

It's what you get when you have no phone manufacturing supply chains anymore because you shipped them all to China 20+ years ago then lost the OS wars to Apple and Google leaving you with no local phone industry. Then it's gonna cost you through the nose when you're making, what are now to your industry, niche low volume items. Remember when you could buy EU made Nokias, Siemens and Ericssons? Even the chargers were…

As ex-Nokia, I can tell quite a few stories about the rampdown in Germany, of factories and R&D sites, merge with Siemens and what not.

For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.

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